AA vs coordinated board

[Sushiglutton]

Hi! I think ur analysis about how the hand should be played is good. And like u I agree with OP's-line. However there are a few things were I think different.

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I put him on an ace that pairs with the board and a busted straight draw. I would call.


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I think u are narrowing his range too hard. He can have all kinds of hands, including two-pairs and straights. We have very little information.

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The thing to remember about AA is how weak it can become in micro limit games.


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AA is more valuable in micro limit games because u will get paid off more.

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Working against you is that:

1. In micro limit people will call PFRs with anything.


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Good for us


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2. Plays that protect your hand are less effective because people are very loose.


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Often good for us.

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3. You do not want your AA to get reraised, ever. This is for the reasons I stated above. A reraise after the flop is probably going to turn into a value bet for someone (maybe not the raiser, but someone that isn't you) in a loose game. You want your AA to last to the river and you want to show down as cheaply as possible because of the risk of the suckout.


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Showing down as cheaply as possible is not my goal when I get AA.

[BionicComma]

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The thing to remember about AA is how weak it can become in micro limit games.


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AA is more valuable in micro limit games because u will get paid off more.


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I think this is true in a normal, tight game but in my experience when you have 7 or 8 people seeing the flop in the micro limit game, your chances of surviving with just top pair dwindle. I see AA get beat down by suckout flushes, straights and two pair all the time.

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Working against you is that:

1. In micro limit people will call PFRs with anything.


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Good for us

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2. Plays that protect your hand are less effective because people are very loose.


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Often good for us.

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3. You do not want your AA to get reraised, ever. This is for the reasons I stated above. A reraise after the flop is probably going to turn into a value bet for someone (maybe not the raiser, but someone that isn't you) in a loose game. You want your AA to last to the river and you want to show down as cheaply as possible because of the risk of the suckout.


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Showing down as cheaply as possible is not my goal when I get AA.

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Vs a board with 5 opponents, a flush and /or a straight draw out there is no way I am going to get into a raising war with just AA.

Perhaps I am just off with my estimation of AA in the micro limit game, but I find that they are just too suceptible to loose players who, usually rightly, chase hands in big multiway pots. Against a ragged board I completely agree that you want to push the rockets.

[Tim Brice]

The first thing that grabs me is you have to bet that turn. I know it is a scare card, and if you get check-raised you may can throw your hand down right then. But you can not afford to give a free card in this situation. Make him pay for his draw. If you do that, the whole dynamics of this hand change.

As played, I would call on the river. Your turn check probably lead him to believe that you did not have much. With just forty hands on him, I do not think we can conclude anything definite about his play.

[Tim Brice]

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I think this is true in a normal, tight game but in my experience when you have 7 or 8 people seeing the flop in the micro limit game, your chances of surviving with just top pair dwindle. I see AA get beat down by suckout flushes, straights and two pair all the time.


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Of course AA plays better in a 2 or 3 handed situation than with seven or eight players in the pot. That is even more reason to hope your AA get raised and re-raised in pre-flop and flop situations. The goal is to maximize your value right? I play it aggressive until someone tells me they have it beat. In this hand, maybe a check-raise on the turn does that. But I am still betting/raising with any chance I get up until that point.