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Old 09-07-2006, 10:40 AM
jdog1999 jdog1999 is offline
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

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That river bet sort of looks like a block to me.

I'd raise AI

I'm guessing his range is something like two pair or a straight

I don't think you're beat very often here.

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This looks like a sucker bet to me. Giving me good enough odds to call with a weak hand. I call for sure but there is no way I would raise here. You have a 5 high flush for crying out loud.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

Can I ask what's wrong with the PF call? If villian is only gonna raise to 3BB, why not play a hand like this that has the potential to be a monster and he won't be able to put you on later?

I kind of like the PF call, and I think if villain keeps doing it, it will more than pay for itself because the hands you win with cards like these are usually pretty large.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

guys, wtf?

this river is an easy push

(fold preflop though)
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

fold preflop.
dont shure i love the bet on the flop.
call river.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

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Can I ask what's wrong with the PF call?

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A lot of it has to do with being oop. It's gonna be harder to get paid off when we hit, and more expensive when we're beat. Also, 53s is a pretty lousy hand, but I'd call with it every now and then on the button if CO raised to 3x.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

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guys, wtf?

this river is an easy push

(fold preflop though)

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What worse hand does a solid player call a push with on the end here? Maybe a straight thats it.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:18 AM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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guys, wtf?

this river is an easy push

(fold preflop though)

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What worse hand does a solid player call a push with on the end here? Maybe a straight thats it.

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a push here is a 1/3 pot bet! He's calling with anything and everything
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

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guys, wtf?

this river is an easy push

(fold preflop though)

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What worse hand does a solid player call a push with on the end here? Maybe a straight thats it.

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agreed - I just call the river
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:24 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

Push.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

Check/calling that pot sized bet OOP on the turn and leading the river with a weakish blocking bet pretty much means that the chance villain has a flush is negligible (he's dead set on pot control not extracting value). Shove over his bet every time, he will call with straights/2pairs plenty of the time (b/c he's pot stuck). Remember, solid players rarely fold strong hands (b/c it is usually wrong to do so). The other side of that coin is that they will pay off occasionally when they shouldn't.
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