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Old 08-28-2006, 05:54 AM
FortunaMaximus FortunaMaximus is offline
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Default Re: So you guys want to see a LAG in action? (Full HH)

Thanks. Thru half of it.

91 bothered me a little. Just saving time?
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Old 08-28-2006, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: So you guys want to see a LAG in action? (Full HH)

Appreciate the link here, as a lower level learning player this made me think about a few high-blind situations differently.

One thing that would bring this to life a little is to understand where the bubble bursts and how many are left - say at the blind level changes... is this info available on PFX (could not see it) would you have it?
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Old 08-28-2006, 09:01 AM
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Thanks for posting this.
I'm going to post some of the hands and ask some very elementary questions.

Hand 23: you open raise 3x from EP for the second hand in a row, this time with 63c and then c-bet the two flush K910 flop. Button calls. Button has 8458 behind and you have 16645. Turn brings a 6 and you check.

Two questions. Why no second barrel with pair and flush draw? Secondly, I fold 63s from EP after raising previous hand because I feel I'm more likely to get action. Do you find this and is getting action with marginal hands OOP part of the function of having a large stack?
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Old 08-28-2006, 09:37 AM
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Hand 87: the small reraise leaves him with about 11k obviously enough room to fold but it seems like he has a monster or its a complete resteal here. with your image I dont think you are getting many folds out of him here, you had been raising a lot and he picks a time with complete air to bluff against you? This is obviously a horrible play by him or maybe a great read by you can you give us your thoughts here?

OGRE

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When I grow up, I want to be an astronaut, like Ansky. I think the key here is the silly raise amount and history between the two. Villain has been substantially owned twice in BB from button and is obviously sick of hero. Added to which, his stack is reaching the point where he's not going to have any room for anything other than an AI resteal. If he's going to make a stand, it's got to be now and he's already had his fingers burned seeing a flop OOP v hero. Also, villain has been seen to put reasonably substantial chips in the pot and then fold before seeing the flop. So I guess that Ansky sees this as a good spot to make a move. BB may have woken up with a hand but the table is pretty weak, IMO, and Ansky has a substantial chip lead that is not unduly compromised by getting his chips in with the worst hand and losing. Up to this point, no one has worked out how to respond to Ansky's laggy play, except by reraising with better hands and watching him fold, which isn't the best way to deal with a maniac who has a big stack. It doesn't appear to me that anyone is playing back at him without the goods, despite knowing that he's opening and calling light, so it's not going to hurt him unduly to lose here and show down his cards.

FWIW, I hate those typed-in silly figure raises and they tend to make me play sub-optimally.

FWIW, having been outplayed post-flop and pre-flop by hero, villain has to stick it all in here if he wants to make a stand with whatever hand that he's folding here.
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Old 08-28-2006, 09:52 AM
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Hand 104: I actually stopped the hand and analyzed it before i saw the results here. when he calls off 20% of his stack preflop against a lag i really dont like putting anything else in the pot, with a marginal hand he is going to shove over you preflop and by check raising you even get TT or something to get all im which may have folded to a lead. I'm guessing you read his flop bet as extremely weak but i dont see him calling/betting over 1/2 he stack against a lag here with nothing.

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Villain has flatcalled previously for a large portion of his stack from SB and then check, check-folded. The stacks are awkward but I don't think that hero can fold to any bet here when he has flopped second pair and the pot is that large in relation to villain's stack. If he leads, villain probably only calls/raises if he's ahead so check-calling is the play.
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Old 08-28-2006, 10:36 AM
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Ansky, you don't cbet a lot of the time, even on flops that would seem favorable for a cbet to me.

Why?
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Old 08-28-2006, 11:46 AM
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It seemed to me that you only played laggy when you should of, rather than played the entire tournament laggy.

The player in two to your left early (bcans) was way too weak tight(which is more obvious b/c we see your cards btw, maybe it wasn't as obvious to him). You took advantage of both his lack of blind defense and apparent lack of knowledge/courage to re-steal from you. He consistently folded his blinds and when he defended, he only called your raise and left you in position.

More than anything here, I think it was the situation (other players) that made LAG effective here. I think you recognized this too as you turned it off a bit at different tables and of course when players got very shortstacked and were going A/I.

Nice job sir. Thanks for the post.
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Old 08-28-2006, 12:09 PM
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What were the deciding factors that made you play so LAG in this tournament was it the table/bigstack?

At the beginning you played really LAG and there isnt much to talk about because you never really got called or flopped anything. Throughout the history Im not going to bore you with "Hand XX: Standard" I will just cut to the chase

Hand 53: the bb has been at your table for a while and knows you are playing LAG, I can see him calling with any 2 preflop and expecting him to be leading with complete air alot. This is a very risky play can we got your thoughts on this hand ?

Hand 87: the small reraise leaves him with about 11k obviously enough room to fold but it seems like he has a monster or its a complete resteal here. with your image I dont think you are getting many folds out of him here, you had been raising a lot and he picks a time with complete air to bluff against you? This is obviously a horrible play by him or maybe a great read by you can you give us your thoughts here?

Hand 93: The majority of your raises have come from MP/MP any reason why you mixed it up here with Q5s utg (next orbit K8o utg you fold)? nice flop sucks you didnt get action but checking the flop here would be bad.

Hand 104: I actually stopped the hand and analyzed it before i saw the results here. when he calls off 20% of his stack preflop against a lag i really dont like putting anything else in the pot, with a marginal hand he is going to shove over you preflop and by check raising you even get TT or something to get all im which may have folded to a lead. I'm guessing you read his flop bet as extremely weak but i dont see him calling/betting over 1/2 he stack against a lag here with nothing.

Hand 107: Looks like you ran into an overpair, but with your lag style and after the J9 hand I dont like check raisign this flop because it looks like you completely full of [censored], and i can see a decent player shoving AQ/AK back at you and not giving up pocketpairs.

Hand 124: I dont like raising here on the button with 92o due to your previous encounters but if you do I bet the flop.

Hand ~150: I see a bunch of green around this point and i think, "nice pwnage of a bubble" then i realize you are just a cardrack.
Hand 150: This player is somewhat new to you table but I like this resteal spot, you have 20bbs and there is ~10k in the pot.

Hand 153: ErickW23 and Tsoprano are in the blinds here, how much do the players in the blinds affect your LAG raises?

Hnad 157: You have JKs and flop TP what do you put erik on and whats your play if called or raised on the flop?

Hand 168: I think this call is a bit loose getting less than 2-1

Hand 190: this call also seems a bit loose with below to act behind.

Hand 198: I agree that Below is a prefect player to do this against but giving a "gambler" 2-1(?) doenst seem very good in this spot.


overall you played very good, normal TAG play would have blinded you out here a lot with such [censored] cards early/mid. Its a shame you never got action with you big hands even though you had kept up a lag image I think that was one of your downfalls. Nothing you can really do unless you want to fold TT 5 handed.

edit: i forgot to add that this tournament you showed good judgment tightening way up when you wernt the 1st raiser and also tightening way up when you stack started to dwindle/blinds increase.

OGRE

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Old 08-28-2006, 02:34 PM
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Villain has flatcalled previously for a large portion of his stack from SB and then check, check-folded.

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This changes things a bit but there are still so few hands he has beat here. AQ/AJ/88/77
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Old 08-28-2006, 02:51 PM
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Hand 87: Good lord.
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