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#11
07-25-2006, 02:19 PM
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Re: Semibluff with 99 on KKx board - ok?
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[ QUOTE ] A simple call preflop and going for set-value would've been better here, I agree. [/ QUOTE ] It isn't, just calling here is turning your hand into 22. [/ QUOTE ] Nuttin' wrong wit the ducks. 
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#12
07-25-2006, 02:20 PM
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Re: Semibluff with 99 on KKx board - ok?
If your gonna raise PF, raise more. I would make it $4-5
Just calling here is fine. I would proberly never ever bet this flop, not even if I was the PFR. Not with so many in it. Obviously there are only two live kings, but at this level you see a lot of people playing Kx. So chances are this hit somebody. See if you can get a free show down, or turn a 9. If somebody bets here, I fold 100%.
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#13
07-25-2006, 02:20 PM
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Re: Semibluff with 99 on KKx board - ok?
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[ QUOTE ] (and FWIW I think I'd either make it $4 or just limp along, $2 is rarely going to be enough to get what you want here) [/ QUOTE ] $2 is perfectly consistent with the 4BB+1/limper guideline. I'd play it the same preflop, you very likely have the best hand, but it doesn't play well in a multiway pot so you raise for value and to thin the field (which didn't happen, but that's being results orientated). [ QUOTE ] With the big bet (I normally would bet $6-$8 here) I'm trying to convince everyone I have a King. [/ QUOTE ] This reasoning is horrible. [/ QUOTE ] No, $4 would be 4BB ($2) + 1BB per limper ($0.5x4). That should cut down the field. This is a horrible situation I think you have the best hand though but it could get messy being OOP. I check and see what happens. You need to cut down the field
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#14
07-25-2006, 02:22 PM
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Re: Semibluff with 99 on KKx board - ok?
You're wrong, BB is 0.25, not 0.5.
He played it perfectly preflop, he couldn't know he was up against a bunch of calling stations.
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#16
07-25-2006, 02:23 PM
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Re: Semibluff with 99 on KKx board - ok?
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[ QUOTE ] So I am assuming you are also doing this with 22, AQ, and any other hand you may have happened to raise preflop? [/ QUOTE ] Hm, good one. I'm not sure. AQ, maybe. 22 not (don't know why?). I just figured my 99 could still be good here... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but you said.... [ QUOTE ] If I get called I think I'm behind and check/fold... [/ QUOTE ] So in reality, there is no way you are getting to showdown anyway. Even if your hand is best, you are just hoping that noone has a king, and will fold. It doesn't matter what you are holding.
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#17
07-25-2006, 02:23 PM
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Re: Semibluff with 99 on KKx board - ok?
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This is a horrible situation I think you have the best hand though but it could get messy being OOP. I check and see what happens. You need to cut down the field [/ QUOTE ] You won't cut the field down by checking. And check raising is expensive. Just lead out, but like AJ said, there's no reason to make it $10... Make it smaller. Not only does it look like you have a K and are trying to rope others in, but it costs less.
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#18
07-25-2006, 02:59 PM
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Re: Semibluff with 99 on KKx board - ok?
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Not only does it look like you have a K and are trying to rope others in [/ QUOTE ] doubtful these guys even ponder that. after u raise, cbet it about 1/2 - 2/3 pot probably give up after that, excluding a non-9 turn obviously
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