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06-02-2006, 10:02 AM
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Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I must be an idiot because this does not look "easy" to me. I probably push myself but I don't like being in this spot. Indy [/ QUOTE ] I certainly don't think its easy either, just correct. It is annoying how "easy" some decisions are in this forum. If they were that easy then more people would find the accurate one. [/ QUOTE ] While I certainly could buy this to be a push, I think this is a more complex situation than you make it out to be. I dont like one-line answers without a motivation :-/. [/ QUOTE ] I am a bad writer. I DON'T think this is easy. I was taking a jab at those who always claim easy this, easy that. Sorry, I don't have much to say about it. You have a loose limper juicing the pot, a desperate stack, and a somewhat reasonable hand soooo push. 
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#13
06-02-2006, 01:01 PM
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Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
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Oh, and theres pretty much 0% this is a trap limp from villain. [/ QUOTE ] In the $60s if I am UTG+1 I limp here a lot here with a big hand to induce a push from one of the smaller stacks behind me (trap limp). This same situation happened to me yesterday I had TT the small stack pushed with A rag, I called and of course he spiked an A. Is this a leak? if UTG+1 had TT what is a good line?
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#14
06-02-2006, 02:08 PM
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Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
It's not a favorite push of mine or anything, but you gots to.
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#15
06-02-2006, 02:09 PM
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Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
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[ QUOTE ] Oh, and theres pretty much 0% this is a trap limp from villain. [/ QUOTE ] In the $60s if I am UTG+1 I limp here a lot here with a big hand to induce a push from one of the smaller stacks behind me (trap limp). This same situation happened to me yesterday I had TT the small stack pushed with A rag, I called and of course he spiked an A. Is this a leak? if UTG+1 had TT what is a good line? [/ QUOTE ] They aren't you, though. Using it yourself depends on the table. I do this once in a long while.
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#16
06-02-2006, 02:11 PM
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Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
Is this a leak? if UTG+1 had TT what is a good line?
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#17
06-02-2006, 02:15 PM
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Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
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Is this a leak? if UTG+1 had TT what is a good line? [/ QUOTE ] Not necessarily. With a big stack, I would standard raise here. Medium stack could potentially be a push/limp-rr. Shortie = push obviously.
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#18
06-02-2006, 04:03 PM
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Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
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Sorry, I don't have much to say about it. You have a loose limper juicing the pot, a desperate stack, and a somewhat reasonable hand soooo push. [/ QUOTE ] am i missing something? when did the limper become "loose"? all we know is that he's not trapping. if he was loose i'd push for sure, but here i would not. we are not ahead of any non-fishy limping hands - it has to be A8+ or 77+ unless villain is a fish. i'd fold.
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#19
06-02-2006, 04:34 PM
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Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
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[ QUOTE ] Sorry, I don't have much to say about it. You have a loose limper juicing the pot, a desperate stack, and a somewhat reasonable hand soooo push. [/ QUOTE ] am i missing something? when did the limper become "loose"? all we know is that he's not trapping. if he was loose i'd push for sure, but here i would not. we are not ahead of any non-fishy limping hands - it has to be A8+ or 77+ unless villain is a fish. i'd fold. [/ QUOTE ] Ha ha. I have no idea where I got that! Either way, lets use assumptions on the limper. I would say the average, typical, 60 player has this as his range JTs, QTs+, K9s+, KT+, A2s+, A9+, 22+. Wouldn't this then be a push especially if hero is confident there is no trap?
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#20
06-02-2006, 04:34 PM
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Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
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[ QUOTE ] Oh, and theres pretty much 0% this is a trap limp from villain. [/ QUOTE ] In the $60s if I am UTG+1 I limp here a lot here with a big hand to induce a push from one of the smaller stacks behind me (trap limp). This same situation happened to me yesterday I had TT the small stack pushed with A rag, I called and of course he spiked an A. Is this a leak? if UTG+1 had TT what is a good line? [/ QUOTE ] Limping TT is a leak because it is to vulnerable hand what happen if the blinds check through and overs hit or if the blinds flop two pair with rags or flop top pair with jx qx etc. TT is a raising hand here.
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