$60 I hate spots like this.
 

Dont really have any massive FE against people who limp with high stacks like this. Though this is statistically the best hand I get before the blinds hit me, and chances are pretty good I'm gonna get called pulling of a semi-desperate push before they do.

Oh, and theres pretty much 0% this is a trap limp from villain.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1335)
UTG+1 (t3400)
MP1 (t1718)
Hero (t1095)
CO (t1385)
Button (t1415)
SB (t802)
BB (t2350)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t200, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero ...</font>

Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
 

Easy push IMO.

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looks like a good push

Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
 

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Dont really have any massive FE against people who limp with high stacks like this. Though this is statistically the best hand I get before the blinds hit me, and chances are pretty good I'm gonna get called pulling of a semi-desperate push before they do.

Oh, and theres pretty much 0% this is a trap limp from villain.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1335)
UTG+1 (t3400)
MP1 (t1718)
Hero (t1095)
CO (t1385)
Button (t1415)
SB (t802)
BB (t2350)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t200, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero ...</font>

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I must be an idiot because this does not look "easy" to me. I probably push myself but I don't like being in this spot.

Indy

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I must be an idiot because this does not look "easy" to me. I probably push myself but I don't like being in this spot.

Indy

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I certainly don't think its easy either, just correct. It is annoying how "easy" some decisions are in this forum. If they were that easy then more people would find the accurate one.

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I must be an idiot because this does not look "easy" to me. I probably push myself but I don't like being in this spot.

Indy

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I certainly don't think its easy either, just correct. It is annoying how "easy" some decisions are in this forum. If they were that easy then more people would find the accurate one.

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While I certainly could buy this to be a push, I think this is a more complex situation than you make it out to be.

I dont like one-line answers without a motivation :-/.

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I must be an idiot because this does not look "easy" to me. I probably push myself but I don't like being in this spot.

Indy

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I certainly don't think its easy either, just correct. It is annoying how "easy" some decisions are in this forum. If they were that easy then more people would find the accurate one.

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While I certainly could buy this to be a push, I think this is a more complex situation than you make it out to be.

I dont like one-line answers without a motivation :-/.

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This problem has an decent mathematical solution by the way. You can't use SNGPT because it cannot handle limpers, but I'd do the following just to get a "feel" for the numbers. Put the limper on a tight range around KQ. Then calculate the probability of running into a better Ace or a PP behind you. Then weight the EVs through these probabilities. This could take me 30 minutes. I don't have time today but one of the smarter posters in this forum could do it (including u).

Indy

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Oh, and theres pretty much 0% this is a trap limp from villain.

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I love spots like this, shove shove shove shove

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Oh, and theres pretty much 0% this is a trap limp from villain.

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I love spots like this, shove shove shove shove

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I'd be loving it alot more if i had A9s or t1300.

Still shoving if its A2s?

Re: $60 I hate spots like this.
 

I was in the exact same spot yesterday, but with A9, and about 1700 chips. Villain limped for about the 4th or 5th time, blinds were 100/200, and they were going up in 2 minutes. I assume that pushing in my spot would also be correct? I probably would have folded if I could have seen another round in the blinds. (sorry for the hijack)