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Old 11-07-2007, 09:30 PM
Mr_Pathetic Mr_Pathetic is offline
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Default Re: 10NL - QQ overpair vs passive villain

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But surly bet/folding the turn is really ugly, if he shoves I will have to call, because I will probably be good 1/6 times here....

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that basically implies that you think he will raise you with AT or JJ if he somehow got here with it and if so then I agree. problem is I do not see him doing that especially if his aggression is low. I would tend to think the only hand that would raise you here that you beat on this turn is JJ. AT/KT is calling most of the time. Your opponent has to either think that you have an over pair or nothing to make a flop call like he did. he made it very clear on the flop he wanted to continue as calling was the strongest line he could take on the flop
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:41 PM
CubicZirconia CubicZirconia is offline
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Default Re: 10NL - QQ overpair vs passive villain

If you make a reasonable bet on the turn you'll be putting in over half of your stack and basically committing yourself. Thus I would only bet the turn if you're looking to get all in. Stack to pot ratio is almost 6, so you need to decide if you want to move here. I don't like bet folding the turn though. He flat-called a dry board on the flop which tells me he likes his hand. I wouldn't expect him to fold to a turn bet. Again, I'd only bet if I want to put put all the money in. That's me.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:45 AM
MrWooster MrWooster is offline
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Default Re: 10NL - QQ overpair vs passive villain

Ok,

Thanks for the replies... it seems that no-one is 100% sure what to do here.... I think that I think that its going to be hard not to get it AI on the turn here though I think often I will be behind.

Results for this hand:

I bet the turn, villain shoved, I called and he had JJ --- my QQ held up.

However, I think that I was very lucky here....
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