400NL a big bluff

[ChrisV]

I don't think A6o is a good hand to do this with at all. JTo is about 5 times the hand A6 is even though A6 is "better" vs his range in terms of winning more at SD, because you get to win on Axx flops as well as by hitting your hand. A6o you either flop your ace and they c/f or you're left praying your cbet works against a calling station.

[1o BoY]

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Why are you raising A6o in that spot pf and why are you trying to bluff a loose guy off his hand? ABC poker gets the money <font color="red">at 2/4. </font> Also if you're going to attempt a bluff vs this guy, try to pick a spot where you have outs when called.

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Why are you raising A6o in that spot pf and why are you trying to bluff a loose guy off his hand? ABC poker gets the money vs calling stations. Also if you're going to attempt a bluff vs this guy, try to pick a spot where you have outs when called.

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isolating a guy with a hand that beats his limping and limp/calling range.

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Barely. A6o is 51% against top 50% of hands. That isn't exactly the kind of edge that a huge winrate is built on. The main thing though is that it plays terribly postflop. It's virtually incapable of winning big pots, and the donk will be terrified any time an ace flops (unless he kickers you) and will correctly put you on ace high when one doesn't. Plus calls or reraises behind you will absolutely destroy any equity you manage to squeeze out of him.

But that's OK, you can always deal with the shoddiness of the hand by trying to double-barrel bluff a guy who always calls.

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lol wtf - isolating ip against an idiot here is +ev....its not like its a terrible play. i dont know why you are delving into this so much. its not the point of the hand and isnt a significant leak by any means

[ChrisV]

The point is that the correct answer to this hand is "fold the flop, you're vs a guy who always calls and don't have any pairs or draws", which then leads to the question "yes, but I can't just fold every time my retarded opponent donk bets random flops?", the answer to which is "play hands where you might have a pair or draw when he does that then". Hands which never have pairs or draws on non-Axx flops don't play well versus idiot opponents.

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The point is that the correct answer to this hand is "fold the flop, you're vs a guy who always calls and don't have any pairs or draws", which then leads to the question "yes, but I can't just fold every time my retarded opponent donk bets random flops?", the answer to which is "play hands where you might have a pair or draw when he does that then". Hands which never have pairs or draws on non-Axx flops don't play well versus idiot opponents.

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LoL. all that is given about villain is that he is 50/18 or something. nothing said that he "calls everything." if you are always just mucking here and not contemplating a flop raise you are a little girl. but anyway the talking to yourself thing was rly cute.

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anyways im glad you finally answered the ops question

[ChrisV]

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all that is given about villain is that he is 50/18 or something. nothing said that he "calls everything."

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Plays 50% of hands and limp/calls often? I'm sure he plays real TAG after the flop though, that makes tons of sense.

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if you are always just mucking here and not contemplating a flop raise you are a little girl.

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I'm not in this situation to begin with. If I was in this situation with some other more reasonable hand I'd mostly fold, but then I'd rather be a little girl with stack intact than a big brave man with balls of steel who just lost his stack because he tried to bluff someone who stacked off with second pair six kicker.

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but anyway the talking to yourself thing was rly cute.

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Aww thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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anyways im glad you finally answered the ops question

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I'm pointing out the root of the problem. The answer isn't "fold", it's "don't set up this situation for yourself".

[ArturiusX]

Isolating a little bit light perhaps, but jesus, he's a 50/18. give me any two random cards in a raised pot against him.

[KvGalen]

preflop is fine, fold the flop

[ChrisV]

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Isolating a little bit light perhaps, but jesus, he's a 50/18. give me any two random cards in a raised pot against him.

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This attitude is really odd to me... give you any two cards vs a guy you are very likely to need showdown value against? If you said "give me any two cards in a raised pot vs a weak tight player" I'd get it...