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Old 08-21-2006, 03:34 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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1) Bad. Against 2 early raisers. Plus theirs no such thing as a good flop against a caller. Bad reverse implied odds. Might as well do it, then with any two cards.

2) fine. but calling is proably just as +EV.

3) sexy.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:36 PM
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1) Bad. Against 2 early raisers. Plus theirs no such thing as a good flop against a caller. Bad reverse implied odds. Might as well do it, then with any two cards.

2) fine. but calling is proably just as +EV.

3) sexy.

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DB,

I pwned this thread, obv.

Please come up with hands that are not so standard kthx.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:39 PM
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epdaws and others,

How often are you reraising vs. calling in hands 2 and 3? These are pretty much always calls for me.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:42 PM
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im calling in both because im a nit but i like raising because of the doors it can open for you. raising with 67s is so sweet because your hand is so disguised esp when you flop something like a 6 7. raising a hand like this has to be complete opponenet dependent though
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:42 PM
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epdaws and others,

How often are you reraising vs. calling in hands 2 and 3. These are pretty much always calls for me.

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Hand 2 call 80%, though this will likely rise as I continue to move up in levels.

Hand 3: Raise 65%, call 35% or so.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:45 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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all,

is hand 1 a fold then?
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:44 PM
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epdaws and others,

How often are you reraising vs. calling in hands 2 and 3? These are pretty much always calls for me.

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The wider the raiser's range, the more often I re-raise. Your hand is too good to play for set value alone vs. a wide range, but you won't like playing 99 OOP on most flops unless you have some initiative.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:45 PM
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I can play 99 OOP in a four-way raised pot postflop pretty easily most of the time ... if I don't have a set I'm done.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:42 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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TBH, unless I have some kind of an idea how my opponents play I very rarely make 'moves' preflop. Too often it's just spewing. So, with no reads I would say I dislike all of them.

Given the right reads/image/flow I might make any of these plays I guess.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:39 PM
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Hi guys, I'm sorry to detract from the strategy discussion, but please help a newbie out. I am aware of what the squeeze play is (when a player in early position raises and is cold called, and then you 3bet in late position), but I don't understand why this play is supposed to work? I understand that the initial raiser is often forced to muck his hand since he is going to be OOP against a cold caller and a re-raiser who have both shown a lot of PF strenth, but I don't understand why the cold caller is supposed to throw away his hand?
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