Simple question - open limping in pf with super calling station?

[PokerFink]

1. make thread asking for advice
2. insult everyone who gives advice
3. do not profit.

[winningfish]

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1. make thread asking for advice
2. insult everyone who gives advice
3. do not profit.

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lol that's funny.

But generally speaking why should one not raise PF on a big hand vs calling station, especially if as JackAll said he "never" limped in PF? Calling station or not, if you got big pockets you gotta do something with it PF.

It's pretty clear the answer is raise per normal PF, then slowplay flop to keep him in it and build the pot from turn.. isn't that standard?

[callme]

I wrote in my reply before you should figure out if he calls bigger than normal Raises PF - if so do exactly that.

If not, just raise normal and

- valuebet all possible streets with your big PP.

[JooWish622]

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Ok, all your answers suck like a hooker trying to earn bread and water money.

You three are a bunch of tools. Really. F8CKING TOOLS.

sc's/ssc's/AXs/low pairs all play well in a family pot. So raising to isolate is not a great idea unless you can make the fish fold and steal from him. With a guy like this villain who NEVER FOLDS and us hitting our hands so seldom - raising to isolate is fkn rediculous.

I already explained that he doesn't just call a bit too much. I said he NEVER FOLDS pf, flop, and seldom on turn (calling with gutshots and bottum pair)



I'm still open to a good suggestions here.

Someone who learnt to use their brain please answer with something other than 'ooh someone once said to isolate anyone who is in the broad category of fish'. Others please shut the fk up.


Edit: Sorry, getting fed up with fking tools and turned into a poo-flinging monkey.

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HI Jack

I often debate this question with my friends and a few things to think about.

In the case that everyone at the table plays badly, I would limp. THis scenario is common in most 2-4 Games or below in which everyone seems to go broke with anything.

however, at tougher games, I would raise with tehse hands to isolate because A. even if it is a family pot, that relaly won't help you all too much because good players are less apt to go broke with mediocre hands and B. (which is a more important reason), if you don't raise, someone else will and then you may have to fold your hand later because of initiative reasons and C. mix up your range of raising hands

If there's only one fish, it doesnt really make sense to create a family pot with other good players with a hand that won't stand to be paid.

[JooWish622]

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1. make thread asking for advice
2. insult everyone who gives advice
3. do not profit.

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just because someone yells at the responses doesnt mean its unjustified. I agree the above 3 posters were babbling and not really giving constructive advice.

[SEABEAST]

wow jackall you are retarded AND a douchebag. guess that makes you a retarded douchebag?

[SEABEAST]

they weren't babbling at all, they told him all he needed to know. drmagic solved the thread and the other 2 added color commentary.

[JooWish622]

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they weren't babbling at all, they told him all he needed to know. drmagic solved the thread and the other 2 added color commentary.

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it's nowhere near the full story because they didn't answer the OP's next question which is why is limping with A3s incorrect since it does normally play well in family pots.

TO which I replied, if you're playing anyone who plays 2-4 or below, limp. Or, judging from the simplicity of their answers, if you're playing any of the first 3 posters or you.

[SEABEAST]

i'm guessing you play live.

[Big_Jim]

All you guys who insist that raising MUST be correct with any hand that you want to play

What if villain is directly to your left and you're in EP? Is it still correct?

What if villain is in the blinds and you have some trashy offsuit connector/weak suited K/etc OTB?