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#11
03-25-2006, 12:03 AM
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Re: JJ, UTG, 2nd hour of $3R
i put him on QQ - AA ot Ak hearts. If he made his trip he decide to slow play it. Your push is good enough. You have 10 outs if your beating now or you might be ahead and guy had Ak. 
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#13
03-25-2006, 12:15 AM
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Re: JJ, UTG, 2nd hour of $3R
I'm not slow playing a SET on that board, are you dontmiss?
Ansky, plz explain his flop range.
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#15
03-25-2006, 12:18 AM
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Re: JJ, UTG, 2nd hour of $3R
if his CB (on this particular flop) was in the 1500-3000 range, i would think AK would be in his range.
while anything is possible, i don't think the average solid player bets 1.5x the pot with AK in this situation.
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#16
03-25-2006, 12:19 AM
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Re: JJ, UTG, 2nd hour of $3R
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#18
03-25-2006, 04:58 AM
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Re: JJ, UTG, 2nd hour of $3R
Normally a good player will not reraise an UTG raiser with A,K, especially from mid position. A bad player will probably just push. I don't know which this guy is but when he over bets the pot on the flop coupled with his preflop reraise, in my opinion, he is marked with an over pair to the board and wants to stop you from drawing to that board. The size of his bet also says "I ain't folding to a reraise". So check raising here serves no purpose. Pushing makes more sense if you are planning to risk all of your chips on this hand.
Also, I think your prelflop raise of 2 1/2 times the BB from UG with J,J is too small. Invites all kind of bad things to happen. IF you are mixing things up that's different but normally J,J is a 4x or 5x raise, especially when you have a comfortable stack size like yours. Just my opinions so please do not rake me over the coals. Vince
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#19
03-25-2006, 05:38 AM
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Re: JJ, UTG, 2nd hour of $3R
Ehh, you don't always have 11 outs. You like never have the best hand here unless he has AK, and if he has QQ you have 8 outs. (And you have 10 outs vs anything else 88+).
But even considering that I think the play is fine.
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#20
03-25-2006, 01:07 PM
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Re: JJ, UTG, 2nd hour of $3R
[ QUOTE ]
Ehh, you don't always have 11 outs. You like never have the best hand here unless he has AK, and if he has QQ you have 8 outs. (And you have 10 outs vs anything else 88+). But even considering that I think the play is fine. [/ QUOTE ] Good point. I think if he has QQ, you actually only have 6 outs (the four 7s + QQ). If you hit your J, he makes a straight. That makes you a 3-1 dog after the flop. If he has KK or AA, you have 10 outs and you are about 3-2 underdog which isn't bad. If you assume that there is an equal chance that he has all three of the hands, you are going to win about 1 out of every 3 hands or 35%. If he is making a crazy play with AK, you will obviously win more but I can't see based on your description of the hand and the player. Now, do you want to risk your tourney on a 2-1? Obviously, the best play would have been to make a big bet or push after the flop and put the pressure on him but I can see why you chose your line. He has just made a nice bet that takes away alot of FE on any check-raise.
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