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Old 10-24-2007, 03:53 PM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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I'm not sure this is so clear cut as a fold as the first few people responded. It's not like one of these players is even average and the other is spewy, they are clearly both morons and you will find these kind of players making this move as light as KQ or a J. I'm embracing variance on this one as I don't believe we're behind here. It may be a race situation, but for either dead money in the pot or a 3 way AI, I'm fine getting it in here.
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:57 PM
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This is a close fold IMO.

You're going to hate it when one guy has AA and the other has JT, but they have you beat pretty often too, and you're never a big favorite.

Change your hand to top two pair, it's a call IMO.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:08 PM
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This is a close fold IMO.

You're going to hate it when one guy has AA and the other has JT, but they have you beat pretty often too, and you're never a big favorite.

Change your hand to top two pair, it's a call IMO.

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top2 and sets are going felt everyday of the week here against these 2
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:53 PM
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I might get in here against the utg, but with the CO shoving I'd expect to see a str8 a lot.
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:02 PM
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I might get in here against the utg, but with the CO shoving I'd expect to see a str8 a lot.

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gettin it in v. PFraisor is a given if it folds back to me. but the overpush is what stunted me. also, i dont expect to see a straight from pusha-man nearly as often as 2pr, QJ/KQ/AQ, sets, or PR+J hands

so i guess on that reasoning...it wud b a call? gah...still confused here
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:52 PM
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this is really sick.
We are ahead of cbetters range and I think pair+draw is a huge part of shovers range.
bottom 2 is a lot different than top 2 here, it really bothers me that we are behind QT or Q9(probably suited, but easily in range) I feel like shover has QT very often.

With only $2 invested I'd lay it down and post it on the 2+2 forums
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:08 PM
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I was curious about this one what ended up happening split suit?
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:11 PM
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I was curious about this one what ended up happening split suit?

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pushaman had QJ, i folded (not willingly tho cuz my spidey-sense went off...but i cudnt find the LR logic in calling), and UTG2 overcalld with KQ and held.

first time in 3months ive gotten results oriented tilty (which is odd being i was +4BI on the sesh anyway)...so i had to get off for an hour b4 restarting.

hand is still bizzare, but i think its a thin fold everytime i peak at it
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:51 PM
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I was curious about this one what ended up happening split suit?

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pushaman had QJ, i folded (not willingly tho cuz my spidey-sense went off...but i cudnt find the LR logic in calling), and UTG2 overcalld with KQ and held.

first time in 3months ive gotten results oriented tilty (which is odd being i was +4BI on the sesh anyway)...so i had to get off for an hour b4 restarting.

hand is still bizzare, but i think its a thin fold everytime i peak at it

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Man I'm good. See above post for what I still think is a reasonable explanation of why its a call.
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Old 10-26-2007, 05:14 PM
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I was curious about this one what ended up happening split suit?

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pushaman had QJ, i folded (not willingly tho cuz my spidey-sense went off...but i cudnt find the LR logic in calling), and UTG2 overcalld with KQ and held.

first time in 3months ive gotten results oriented tilty (which is odd being i was +4BI on the sesh anyway)...so i had to get off for an hour b4 restarting.

hand is still bizzare, but i think its a thin fold everytime i peak at it

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Man I'm good. See above post for what I still think is a reasonable explanation of why its a call.

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i saw it =)

tho the pushamans range is a lil wobbly, it def is a lot of P+D type hands (J/(9-T-Q)). and UTG2 is almost always KK/AA, sometimes AQ. both are silly. but still...razor thin
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