50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

for some odd reason this table is going eff-ing crazy. call pf was a lil loose, but still hella profitable at this spewwy table. havnt seen pusha-man do this b4...so a lil lost here.

both are very loose/spewwy donks (40/32/6 type donks). plz notice the CBsizing and stack sizing





Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $45.90
UTG+2: $67.50
MP1: $10.75
MP2: $50
CO: $57.60
BTN: $9.25
SB: $73.35
Hero (BB): $84.50
UTG: $47

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to $2</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $2, CO calls $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, UTG+1 folds

Flop: ($8.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+2 bets $12</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $55.60 and is All-In</font>, Hero ???

Re: 50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

easy fold

Re: 50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

very very easy fold. Your 2 pair is worthless here.

Re: 50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

Just about the best you can hope for by pushing is getting heads up vs QJ, and even then it's about a coinflip, you've got to let this go.

Re: 50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

easy fold

Re: 50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

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very very easy fold. Your 2 pair is worthless here.

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Hey guys, anyone can explain me why it is easy fold? Against two super-loose/super-agressive donks who playing KK, AA, JJ, AQ, KQ, QJ, even AK this way, how it is easy fold?

I need explanations!

Re: 50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

This is my first post ever, so I hope I'm reasonably correct.
This is an easy fold. You have bottom two pair. You have two opponents, not one. You will see the donks favorite hands QT or KJ often enough to make this an easy fold. They are spewy donks. Look for a better spot. It will come soon.

Re: 50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

im pretty sure this is an easy fold just given estimated equity. im smoked behind all better 2prs (not far out of their range), and not even doin super-well against KQ/QJ type hands. also, its probably going to b seen 3ways after this

ive only put in $2, i see no reason to put in a BI completely blind in an extrememly hgh variance and probably -EV proposition.

if anyone can give more/better reasons, id like to hear them (sry for the "easy" hand...but i did it for reasons ill say later along with the results)

Re: 50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

heh, you folded correctly and realized you would have won $100+ at showdown...

Re: 50NL - 2PR - wtf?
 

I really think this a call. I think the top of the pfr range is AA and the guy that shoves has Jx here a whole hell of a lot, usually with a pair. I really doubt either has a set Q10 is possible, but I doubt Q9 is. Also, there is going to be dead money so getting into a near coinflip is immensely profitable. Also, both guys are 40/32/6 types (I assume over a significant sample since OP didn't say other wise). This means that they are likely often betting and raising very weak hands.