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Old 11-03-2007, 05:19 PM
AZplaya AZplaya is offline
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Default Re: A flop bluff with 55 - NL$50 6m

if I'm calling with 55 against a nitty/predictable villian its for more than set value obv. I think I can stack him a good amount of the time but I also think there are some flops I can push him off his overpair...ie I stack his overpair on a 257 flop and maybe push him off say KK on a QQ10 flop
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: A flop bluff with 55 - NL$50 6m

I understand what youre getting at, that most of the time you will get his stack and on a few boards you can scare him into folding. If that is true, I dont think that holds up for this board at all. What is he putting you on, TT? If he views you as solid I dont think he can put you on any hands that beat him assuming he has a premium hand. On a side note, do you have reason to believe that he is honestly capable of folding KK on a QQT board? I understand he is nitty, but that doesnt mean he lets go of his big pairs easily when he gets them.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: A flop bluff with 55 - NL$50 6m

Technically I think this is a value bet, it's just not a very good one. Fold pre.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: A flop bluff with 55 - NL$50 6m

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I think we can narrow his range down to QQ-AA based on the action, the question is will he fold it.


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Why the hell would he fold any of those? This is really bad
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: A flop bluff with 55 - NL$50 6m

immediate reaction is that this is terrible. nits don't fold ime.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: A flop bluff with 55 - NL$50 6m

he just puts you on and overpair lower than his. The only thing he is folding here is AK.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: A flop bluff with 55 - NL$50 6m

Looks like spew. Nits don't fold overpairs in 3bet pots. I'd like this if you were the 15/9 and villain was the 22/18.
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: A flop bluff with 55 - NL$50 6m

Bad, especially on this paired board. What the hell is our nit afraid of, TT? 22?
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:51 PM
AZplaya AZplaya is offline
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alright general consensus is lolspewaments. He folded and showed QQ so I thought "zomg sweet bluff AZ!!!11" but per usual you guys brought me back to earth.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: A flop bluff with 55 - NL$50 6m

fwiw he prob should fold QQ there, but nits are dumb. really bad bluff.
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