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Old 08-05-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

Ughhh [censored] this tournament.

Lost AQ to KT for chiplead with 31 left... then 2 hands later AJ to the same guys AQ to bubble
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

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Dude he check called the flop and led the turn. You already said he doesn't bluff, so push the turn. Why do you watn to call the turn so you can fold to a diamond river instead of getting the money in ahead? He's never pure bluffing here.

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Old 08-05-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

Raise to like 850, fold on a diamond river
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

I understand most of you think this is a ridiculous easy push on the turn because we put villain on a draw.

But I think, push the turn will only have worse hand fold. On the other hand, 650 is still a lot to play at 25/50/40minute, if the river is a diamond, only Ad , Kd bet the river anyway. A non-diamond river also induces a bluff from a busted draw.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

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Ughhh [censored] this tournament.

Lost AQ to KT for chiplead with 31 left... then 2 hands later AJ to the same guys AQ to bubble

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That sucks. Some guys are just so lucky.

Are you in the $300 Rebuy? If so, better luck.

I'm playing Day 2 tonight at 7:15pm.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

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I understand most of you think this is a ridiculous easy push on the turn because we put villain on a draw.

But I think, push the turn will only have worse hand fold. On the other hand, 650 is still a lot to play at 25/50/40minute, if the river is a diamond, only Ad , Kd bet the river anyway. A non-diamond river also induces a bluff from a busted draw.

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I know you would like to have chips to play with, but I don't like folding to a half pot push on a diamond river. If you think villain will bluff a nondiamond river, why won't he also bluff a diamond river?
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Old 08-05-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

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If you think villain will bluff a nondiamond river, why won't he also bluff a diamond river?

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That's a good question. however, if he didn't have Ace diamond, since I just called on the turn, he would put me on a bigger flush if the 4th diamond dealt at the river. Overall, I think in this spot calling the turn is better than pushing.

Pushing the turn, either I end up with making 500 less from worse hands or losing all my chips to a higher flush made on the turn. However, if this is against an Internet player or in a multiway pot, pushing the turn isn't questioned at all.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

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However, if this is against an Internet player

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So you think live players bluff more?
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:59 AM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

no one has said it, but PF is a fold.
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker $500NL Hand - Turn decision

no it's not. shove turn.

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