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#121
04-24-2007, 03:16 PM
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I would never kill someone because they stole something from me. [/ QUOTE ] Neither would I. But because I am willing and able to defend myself, the chance that someone will try to steal from me is greatly reduced. And because the would-be theif cannot tell the willing and able from the defenseless, the chances that the defenseless will be victimized are also reduced. Do you see why? 
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#122
04-24-2007, 03:20 PM
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Yes, in your example with your aunt, I believe she put herself in great risk when she tried to stop the criminal by shooting at him. [/ QUOTE ] WTF? She was *already* "in great risk". Do you really think that *stopping* the attacker *increased* that risk? She might have ended up *more* dead? [ QUOTE ] Both herself, in case the criminal shot back, and of course the criminal too. I would never kill someone because they stole something from me. [/ QUOTE ] Don't stop the criminal, you might hurt him! Please explain why I should have any regard for someone who is *in the process* of *actively* trying to harm me? W T F ??
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#123
04-24-2007, 03:24 PM
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[ QUOTE ] If no one has guns [/ QUOTE ] Aaaand we're back to the faeries, pixies, and magical unicorns. [/ QUOTE ] NO GUNS HERE, ONLY HAPPY PEOPLE!  KUMBAYA!!!
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#124
04-24-2007, 03:31 PM
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Re: More guns the way to go? Some thoughs.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If no one has guns [/ QUOTE ] Aaaand we're back to the faeries, pixies, and magical unicorns. [/ QUOTE ] NO GUNS HERE, ONLY HAPPY PEOPLE! KUMBAYA!!! [/ QUOTE ] pvn, I demand that you buy me that unicorn. I've got majority rule support, so don't even bother with your "oh my rights" nonsense. The majority loves unicorns!
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#127
04-24-2007, 03:38 PM
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Re: More guns the way to go? Some thoughs.
I think we should end this conversation, at least for my part, as it doesn't seem to go anywhere. I (and a few others) are still against guns, you are still for.
That's OK. I don't think there is much else to say. I do respect your opinions, and I don't want this to become nasty. Last of all, it's not like i disrespect Americans or America because of this (in case somebody thinks I'm an America-basher). I love America. I lived in Los Angeles 6 months some time ago and had the greatest time of my life. Most people are much more friendly than in Norway, and I just love the rich culture and everything the country has to offer. Wish you all the best, and see you at the table. - karl
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#128
04-24-2007, 03:40 PM
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Gun lovers infuriate me. You are the people who lose children becuase you couldn't bear to be without a glock or a 45 and your children blow their brains out becuase you needed to be packing. What a joke. You people are dangerous and scary. [/ QUOTE ] You mention "infuriate", "dangerous" and "scary". Is it possible that your objections to guns are primarily based on emotion rather than on reason and statistically supported analysis?
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#129
04-24-2007, 03:41 PM
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I think we should end this conversation, at least for my part, as it doesn't seem to go anywhere. I (and a few others) are still against guns, you are still for. [/ QUOTE ] Note, however, that nobody is trying to force you to have a gun. One side is trying to impose personal subjective preferences on the other. The other side is not.
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#130
04-24-2007, 03:49 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Think of the children! Never mind that more kids die in swimming pools. You bourgeous people just HAD to have your fancy swimming pool! You people are dangerous and scary. [/ QUOTE ] Your swimming pool is very unlikely to accidentally drown me on my own property while you are using it to defend your property from an intruder. [/ QUOTE ] Which is also true of his gun. It is extremely unlikely that you will accidentally be STRUCK with a bullet firedt by someone on the neighboring property WHILE he is: A) being attacked, AND B) using that gun in self-defense. In fact, I'd say you would probably have a greater chance of winning the Canadian Lottery, even if both your immediate neighbors kept guns at home.
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