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Old 01-08-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: KK vs. DJ Sensei: Live $5/$10

An observation:

If BJ 5-bets to 1200 (choosing a convenient number) and DJ pushes for $2K, BJ's pot odds are 3200:800 or 4:1. DJ could then flip over AA and it would be neutral EV to call/fold. Since DJ would presumably not do this, there will be some possibility (prob VERY small, tho) that it's a bluff. That, coupled with the possibility that he has the other KK would make me call.

To me, 5-betting is committing to the hand. If I choose to commit to the hand preflop, I choose to just flat call the 4-ball in case he's bluffing. Either way we get owned by AA and chop w/KK, but by calling we allow a bluff to continue.

I don't think 5-betting is bad, but 1) it chases off all the hands I would make $$ from and 2) it is at the very bottom of my 5-bet range.

I agree that this hand was a cooler, and the unique situation with BJ 3-betting pre allowed DJ an opportunity to stack him 200BB deep when normally that wouldn't happen.
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