$50NL: my first post . . .

liucipher · #1 03-31-2006, 09:04 PM

My first SSNL post. Be kind. Moved over to cash after Party changed its SNG structure.

My reraise was stupidly small, but the table had been really tight preflop and I wanted to ensure at least one caller. Didn't expect to see the flop four-handed.

Flop was really problematic. A lot of the hands that called me preflop would two pair here (a set was also very possible though I'd imagine KK or QQ may have three-bet my weakish reraise).

1.) given that it was the short stack who pushed (for about the size of the pot), my straight draw/board pairing draw, and the chance I'm against a naked pair or a pair + OESD, is my call here okay?

2.) if someone just flat called in front of me, what's your action then? easy fold?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$50) (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP2 raises to $1.00, 1 folds, CO calls $1.00, Hero raises to $2.75, SB calls $2.50, 1 folds, MP2 calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75.

Flop: ($11.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB raises all-in ($11.29), MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero???

EMc · #2 03-31-2006, 09:08 PM

a. Dont worry about action. You will get it if they have a hand. A real re-raise is important here to build a pot and get it HU or 3 way at most.

Onto the hand, fold here. This is one of the worst possible flops for you.

Fallen Hero · #3 03-31-2006, 09:10 PM

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a. Dont worry about action. You will get it if they have a hand. A real re-raise is important here to build a pot and get it HU or 3 way at most.

Onto the hand, fold here. This is one of the worst possible flops for you.

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liucipher · #4 03-31-2006, 09:15 PM

lol you cash players ... this requires so much more discipline than SNGs ...

i thought it was a bad call at the time, but i just couldn't let the aces go and it ended up working out. just didn't want to get results-oriented. thanks for the help.

Bukem_ · #5 03-31-2006, 09:18 PM

Not that I would fold, but its a crying call on the flop.

ANd raise more pre like others said.

EMc · #6 03-31-2006, 09:19 PM

SnG's are formulaic, nonsensical poker. If you dont like thinking, try limit.

liucipher · #7 03-31-2006, 09:27 PM

I like playing poker while doing homework, so SNGs were perfect for that. I will say, I miss the "pushbot" stages of SNGs when you're playing pretty much every other hand all-in. Sometimes I feel like bouncing off the walls single-tabling NL ring ...

jjigglers · #8 03-31-2006, 10:17 PM

I'm surprised most people are advocating fold. Pair + OESD, two-pair, set and TPTK all might make this play. You have outs against the set and two pair, and you're ahead of the other two.

I'd call expecting to behind 2/3 of the time at worst.

WoolyHat · #9 03-31-2006, 10:24 PM

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I like playing poker while doing homework, so SNGs were perfect for that. I will say, I miss the "pushbot" stages of SNGs when you're playing pretty much every other hand all-in.

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There are a lot of players moving to NL cash since the structure change. FWIW, your pushbot knowledge will be really useful in the current state of the game where you get sooooooooo many players sitting in super short stacked.

mikechops · #10 03-31-2006, 10:48 PM

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I'm surprised most people are advocating fold. Pair + OESD, two-pair, set and TPTK all might make this play. You have outs against the set and two pair, and you're ahead of the other two.

I'd call expecting to behind 2/3 of the time at worst.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

463,320 games 0.110 secs 4,212,000 games/sec

Board: Jc Qd Kh
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 54.1307 % 53.15% 00.98% { AA }
Hand 2: 45.8693 % 44.89% 00.98% { KK-JJ, AKs, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AKo, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

I have to admit, I am suprised to see you are right.