check/call or bet/fold or...?

[Rudis]

15/30 PP 6 handed,

I'm in the BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

two limp, 1 fold, sb completes, I check.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

sb check, I bet, fold, call, sb calls

Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

check, I bet, call, sb folds

River: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, check



My thinking was:

Flop:
Can't let the freecard off. I almost always have the best when everyone has limped in. Easy

Turn: Even more important not to let anyone get river for free. I have many outs as long as no one has the flush.

River: Only interesting street...
when I was playong my thinking was that he
1. could have gone for an overcall on the turn.
2. was still on a draw
or
3. had a better kicker that he might check through.


After the check I instantly changed my mind and think I should have bet/folded.
There are pro's and con's to both.
what do you think?

[Gildwulf]

Without reads I would bet/fold

[Strahlhuber]

I always bet this river, but not always fold to a raise. Leak ?

[Keystone]

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Without reads I would bet/fold

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[poker1O1]

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Without reads I would bet/fold

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I usually agree with u gildwulf. I'm having trouble finding a hand that he calls the flop with that u aren't ahead of at this point. I think it's between a b/f (clear fold) and a c/f, and I'm leaning towarda a c/f.

[Perseus]

bet/fold is pretty standard.

c/f is just terrible, IMO.

[cartman]

I check/call. I think he will bet plenty of his pairs anyway and I want a shot at winning something from his busted draws.

Where is my thinking flawed?

[Our House]

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I usually agree with u gildwulf. I'm having trouble finding a hand that he calls the flop with that u aren't ahead of at this point. I think it's between a b/f (clear fold) and a c/f, and I'm leaning towarda a c/f.

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I'm with gildwolf on this one. Bet the river. Table looks loose passive. Those guys can't wait to call with any pair + draw that missed on the river or even pair + no draw. If he has a bigger ace, so be it. If he raises, super easy fold.

IMO, c/f is the worst of all options. The whole purpose of checking is to induce bluffs from worse hands, not to get valuebet against.

[The Funky Llama]

bet and get called down by K4 or 67

[kapw7]

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Checking might be good against a very agressive player who will very frequently bluff bet a busted draw, "value" bet a lower pair or bluff raise if we bet.

Also against a passive player who will check a lot of hands that beat us. This is not the case here as there are not a lot of these hands - maybe A6, A8 only.

I think both these players will call any pair on the river.