He called you with Jack high? Post it in here! (Designated NC Thread) - Page 7

jively · #61 07-12-2005, 04:39 PM

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what do you guys do while playing cards? I single-table (I'll admit it) so I read [...] and listen to music [...]. It's probably -ev to read while playing, and to not play more than one table, [...]

(I like to parenthesise things)

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I like to edit things with [...] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I belong to the Killer Poker Online theory that it is -EV to do anything besides play poker when playing poker online. So I play my 2-3 tables, I keep track if my tables are still good (with 2+ bad players), look for other tables, and that's it. No music, no reading, no TV, no web surfing, and so on.

My cats do jump up on my lap occasionally, but I usually throw them off when I get into a hand...

-Tom

droolie · #62 07-12-2005, 05:06 PM

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what do you guys do while playing cards? I single-table (I'll admit it) so I read [...] and listen to music [...]. It's probably -ev to read while playing, and to not play more than one table, [...]

(I like to parenthesise things)

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I like to edit things with [...] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I belong to the Killer Poker Online theory that it is -EV to do anything besides play poker when playing poker online. So I play my 2-3 tables, I keep track if my tables are still good (with 2+ bad players), look for other tables, and that's it. No music, no reading, no TV, no web surfing, and so on.

My cats do jump up on my lap occasionally, but I usually throw them off when I get into a hand...

-Tom

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You're missing out on all the porn dude!

Deamon2 · #63 07-12-2005, 06:28 PM

I'm on a downswing. It's currently -80BB. Yay. Hopefully it'll slow down

I keep running into people limp/calling, check/calling me down with AK with an A on the flop. It's getting really annoying when I think my AQ is good.

MrWookie · #64 07-12-2005, 06:42 PM

Just think. Had they raised, it'd be a 90-100 BB downswing.

Deamon2 · #65 07-12-2005, 06:46 PM

good point

I just lost to a runner runner inside straight (the ass end) on a four flush board when I had top 2 pair... so maybe it's not leveling out yet. Please keep calling buddy (not sarcastic).

ellipse_87 · #66 07-12-2005, 09:50 PM

Found a loose table tonight, like 75% seeing flop, 8 BB avg.
My first three hands:

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP3 folds, SB folds.

Turn: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls.

River: (11 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has As Ad (two pair, aces and sevens).
UTG has 8c 8s (two pair, eights and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins 13 BB. 

--Way to hang in there with fourth pair against PF raiser.

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 raises, 2 folds, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, (desparate use of 'raise to any' button while exiting/entering a series of tables, managing 3 good hands) BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (16 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls.

River: (11.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Tc Ts (two pair, queens and tens).
MP1 has Ks Ah (two pair, queens and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.50 BB. 

--Ace high against a double paired board!

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, MP3 caps, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (18 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero raises, SB calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (12 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

River: (19 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 19 BB

Results in white below: 
SB has 5d 9h (two pair, tens and nines).
Hero has Js Jc (two pair, jacks and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 19 BB. 

--9/5 off-suit: highly underrated

I mock them, but I myself just noticed that last flush draw for the first time. I remember I was thinking trips. I hope to God I was still distracted juggling tables. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

MrWookie · #67 07-12-2005, 10:23 PM

Just call me captain table selection.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero caps, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (36 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (24 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO folds, Button calls, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds.

River: (27 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, Button folds, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 29 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG+2 has 6d Td (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Hero has Qh Qd (two pair, queens and jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins 29 BB. 

To hell with hand protection. I'll just bet for value, thanks.

train. · #68 07-12-2005, 10:57 PM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB ( 6 max, 10 handed )

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I know I'm bad late, but can I get in on this game. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

ellipse_87 · #69 07-12-2005, 11:02 PM

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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 raises, 2 folds, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, (desparate use of 'raise to any' button while exiting/entering a series of tables, managing 3 good hands) BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (16 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls.

River: (11.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Tc Ts (two pair, queens and tens).
MP1 has Ks Ah (two pair, queens and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.50 BB. 

--Ace high against a double paired board!

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WTF, I'm a complete idiot. AKo was getting 36-1 on the flop, 22-1 on the turn, and 26-1 on the river. He has as many as 6 outs, and I'm making fun of him for calling down. I'm the donk.

Kumubou · #70 07-12-2005, 11:05 PM

It's a glitch with the new PP histories (somehow)... I (or someone else) may be picking up development of the hand convertor. I know I have a one-line fix for the stupid PP hand-history change.

If nothing else, I may get around to adding TDL 2-7 support from UB. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Edit: Also with the AKo hand on the double-paired board, that is one of the most common times where ace-high is g00t -- it is only beat by the four remaining paired cards, and sometimes the lone pair (if it's over one of the paired cards) and a higher pocket pair. There is not much to connect with on a board like that.

-K