16.5: just call rereraise preflop whit ladies?

Iq75 · #1 03-23-2006, 05:22 AM

VC $16.5, Big Blind is t60 (8 handed)

UTG (t2400)
Hero (t1820)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with Q Q
UTG raises to t120, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t360, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG raises to t720, Hero calls

Flop: (t1020) K 7 6 (2 players)
BB raises to t1680 (all-in), Hero folds???

I don’t usually back down with the ladies preflop (too many donks calling all-in’s with hands like 88 and Ajo), but this got me thinking. What sort of hand minraises utg and rereminraises giving me compelling odds of 3:1 to call?

When the blinds are bigger I just move all-in after the first minraise or after the rereraise. On the flop I can think of only two hands that are behind me (JJ and AQ) and I’m not sure if villain would bet those so strongly, so I folded? Was it a bad laydown? Should I just move all-in after the rereraise (I felt really, really weak with that call and laydown)?

If the flop would have been unders I would have called (or pushed if checked to me).

I haven’t noticed villain doing anything stupid, but it was only round 2.

seskin · #2 03-23-2006, 05:39 AM

THis is easy, plan on getting it allin pf. Do not just call his rereraise at this level.To many idiots at this level.

Wolfram · #3 03-23-2006, 07:59 AM

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On the flop I can think of only two hands that are behind me (JJ and AQ)

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Really?? I can think of only 2 that are ahead, AA and KK.

People do this kind of ish with all kinds of junk on stars. Just push.

tigerite · #4 03-23-2006, 08:16 AM

On the flop, AK, KQ and KJ are also ahead of us now. You know that, right?

Iq75 · #5 03-23-2006, 09:06 AM

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People do this kind of ish with all kinds of junk on stars. Just push.

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They do that on the VC 16.5's too. Yesturday my 20 bb all in with QQ in level 2 was called by limper with AJo. And my 47 bb all in with AA in the first hand was called by 77 and overcalled by AKo (the pot was raised 3bb and coldcalled).

I'm not sure because i 4 - tabled (and read 2p2), but either the villain or the guy next to him seemed very solid (like 3bb raise with AK, 2/3potbet on a A72 two suited flop and so on). Maybe my subconcess knew that it was the villain, cause i normally just push rereraises pf with QQ and this time i'm still very sure that the guy had AA. Or maybe i'm just seeing momsters under the bed.

Oh and the flop was raindow (for some reason the suits did not appear). The flop fold is good IMO since i dont think that villain would 1.5 potbet without AA/Kx more than 33 % of time.

Wolfram · #6 03-23-2006, 09:11 AM

My bad. I thought he was talking about pf, when he obviously states 'on the flop'.