Brace on my wrist TURBO

[DustinG]

a good example of this is my fake peeking chuckles D1 of this game.

Chuck was as obvious a villager as Chuck could be D1 imo, so my post was "if I said I peeked you as a villager, no one would believe that, so I won't say it".

What wouldn't be believed wasn't that fact that I was the seer (although that probably wouldn't be believed either), but that my peek just so happens to be the one of the most obvious villagers in the game.

[HerbieGRD]

It's funny how many times we have this conversation. I still believe that the only reason we keep having it is because 9ers as currently configured are biased strongly towards the village but w/e. The fact that faking seer day 1 is so effective in these games is because wolves can't afford to FPS kill in 9ers (not rly) unless the stars line up perfectly for them.

w/e, as I said, we've been down this road so many times before.

[metsandfinsfan]

faking seer with villagers is one thing
claiming seer as a villager minutes before lynch in a turbo to save yourself is bad though

but yeah, give reads and dont be so self centered about your fake seering.

like i said dustin, i think you are a good villager when you dont fps and dont know why you think its so important to do the [censored] you do all the time.

P.S. Zurvan, stop posting in this thread, if you dont have time to put up a big brother challenge then you dont have time to post in the post game commentary in a turbo you werent involved in [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[DustinG]

Herbie,

I think I disagree about 9ers being skewed towards the village.

Village does win most games, but the village SHOULD win a lot more imo, and its certainly possible for villages to run pretty badly and lose > %50 of games for an extended period.

I would still support not giving the seer a n0 peek though, and seeing how that turned out.

[HerbieGRD]

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Herbie,

I think I disagree about 9ers being skewed towards the village.

Village does win most games, but the village SHOULD win a lot more imo

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Does not compute

[DustinG]

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faking seer with villagers is one thing
claiming seer as a villager minutes before lynch in a turbo to save yourself is bad though


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I did it the other day for a couple reasons

1) my wagon was complete bs (obviously they always are, but this time was a lot worse)

2) I thought there was a decent chance that a wolf could get lynched instead

3) I choose not to vote in self-defense

4) my peek was pretty believable imo

Obviously its horrible when you don't get lynched, and another villager gets lynched, and you have to die the following day

I should also add that I was claiming seer not minutes from the end of the day, but from the very beginning, so it seems silly to then have to unclaim before getting lynched.

[DustinG]

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Herbie,

I think I disagree about 9ers being skewed towards the village.

Village does win most games, but the village SHOULD win a lot more imo

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Does not compute

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if villages were better than we could talk about 9ers being unfair

[HerbieGRD]

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Herbie,

I think I disagree about 9ers being skewed towards the village.

Village does win most games, but the village SHOULD win a lot more imo

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Does not compute

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if villages were better than we could talk about 9ers being unfair

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If I had time I'd look back at the last ~100 9ers and look at village win %. My guess is 70% off the top of my head. That's too high IMO

[metsandfinsfan]

9ers are provillage -- if the seer makes it to day 3 they probably win 80%
wolves cant really fps their nightkills as much

if a wolf dies day 1 village probably wins >80% of the time too

so only time the wolves are in good shape is when they get the seer night 1 or 2

[DustinG]

I think making it to D2 with 2 live peeks ought to be enough to produce a win > %75.

Making it to D3 usually means the village only has to clear 1 player ftw, which should pretty much always happen but doesn't.