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Old 11-30-2007, 06:32 PM
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Any fielder matrix that puts Adam Lind in the top 6 is WAY off.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:55 PM
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Any fielder matrix that puts Adam Lind in the top 6 is WAY off.

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It is? Adam Lind is a pretty good fielder.

As for the other stuff:

Kaz Matsui: LOL
Nats/Mets trade: Mets are idiots, they could have had Blanton straight up for Milledge last summer. Beane is going to take his pound of flesh for Blanton/Haren now.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:10 PM
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Any fielder matrix that puts Adam Lind in the top 6 is WAY off.

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It is? Adam Lind is a pretty good fielder.


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Really? I thought the reason everybody liked Reed Johnson over Lind was because Johnson was a way better fielder.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: ***Official 2007-2008 MLB Offseason Thread***

Reed Johnson is definitely a better fielder, but Lind was good in 2007.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:48 PM
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Reed Johnson is definitely a better fielder, but Lind was good in 2007.

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As much as I wish Lind was good in the field, he isn't.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:58 PM
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Reed Johnson is definitely a better fielder, but Lind was good in 2007.

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As much as I wish Lind was good in the field, he isn't.

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Okay, fielding metrics disagree with you, and I am more inclined to believe them than someone who has watched a few games and is probably cherry-picking.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:34 PM
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Reed Johnson is definitely a better fielder, but Lind was good in 2007.

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As much as I wish Lind was good in the field, he isn't.

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Okay, fielding metrics disagree with you, and I am more inclined to believe them than someone who has watched a few games and is probably cherry-picking.

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I'm too lazy to dig through my files, but as I recall, when Lind was coming up he was thought of as a guy who would hit but might not be able to hack it with the glove.

What I think is funny is, because fielding metrics said Lind had a good year in 2007, something that is debatable to begin with, people want to assume he's a good fielder. Same is going on in the Ryan Church discussion. Of course we know about this little thing called sample size, and 80 games or so is not enough for even the most reliable metrics. A good example of this would be to look at what the hitting metrics thought of Lind in 2007.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:45 PM
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Reed Johnson is definitely a better fielder, but Lind was good in 2007.

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As much as I wish Lind was good in the field, he isn't.

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Okay, fielding metrics disagree with you, and I am more inclined to believe them than someone who has watched a few games and is probably cherry-picking.

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I think it's pretty much a unanimous consensus here in Toronto, but whatever.
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