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Re: Mock scenario with QQ facing a lot of PF heat
Funny you should mention this...a hand from yesterday...
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> UTG ($20.44) UTG+1 ($17.37) <font color="#C00000">UTG+2 ($25.68)</font> MP1 ($17.10) MP2 ($26.50) MP3 ($5.90) CO ($24.93) Button ($21.64) <font color="#C00000">SB ($41.30)</font> <font color="#C00000">Hero ($26.84)</font> Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.875</font>, UTG+2 calls $6.50, MP3 folds, CO folds, SB calls $41.20 (All-In), Hero ??? |
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Re: Mock scenario with QQ facing a lot of PF heat
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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> UTG ($20.44) UTG+1 ($17.37) <font color="#C00000">UTG+2 ($25.68)</font> MP1 ($17.10) MP2 ($26.50) MP3 ($5.90) CO ($24.93) Button ($21.64) <font color="#C00000">SB ($41.30)</font> <font color="#C00000">Hero ($26.84)</font> Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.875</font>, UTG+2 calls $6.50, MP3 folds, CO folds, SB calls $41.20 (All-In), Hero ??? [/ QUOTE ] Call. Shove preflop next time, IMO, or at least make it $10. |
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Re: Mock scenario with QQ facing a lot of PF heat
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Call. Shove preflop next time, IMO, or at least make it $10. [/ QUOTE ] My thoughts exactly. When I looked at the HH I was surprised to see a mere $6.875, that is not my usual amount. I meant to make it higher. I did call in the end but you know how these things usually turn out. Similar decision to OP's, nice if we'll get some comments on this topic. |
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Re: Mock scenario with QQ facing a lot of PF heat
Cold calling is bad here. this exact situation is pretty rare. How often do you see UTG open, then UTG+1 3bet him. It's shove or fold. Reads are nice, but since NL50 doesn't 3bet light especially in position, I guess I muck.
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Re: Mock scenario with QQ facing a lot of PF heat
i would call preflop and then call a bet on the flop with no k or a, and then decide on the turn
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Re: Mock scenario with QQ facing a lot of PF heat
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Cold calling is bad here...... I guess I muck. [/ QUOTE ] I think I agree, although I'm not even so sure I would have the discipline to lay it PF, which, may or may not be a leak of mine and others (hence the thread). Looking from the outside in it really seems to be obviously telling our QQ, maybe more than any other scenario PF, that playing the hand any further is -eV against this range of resistance. Hopefully this will help gather the conclusion a little better.... |
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Re: Mock scenario with QQ facing a lot of PF heat
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Funny you should mention this...a hand from yesterday... No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> UTG ($20.44) UTG+1 ($17.37) <font color="#C00000">UTG+2 ($25.68)</font> MP1 ($17.10) MP2 ($26.50) MP3 ($5.90) CO ($24.93) Button ($21.64) <font color="#C00000">SB ($41.30)</font> <font color="#C00000">Hero ($26.84)</font> Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.875</font>, UTG+2 calls $6.50, MP3 folds, CO folds, SB calls $41.20 (All-In), Hero ??? [/ QUOTE ] This is actually not as close to my mock QQ scenario as it would look to some people. KK is behind only one hand PF. Even if it is ahead, the worst hand to be up against is AK sooted, where we still have a solid 66% equity PF. Just get the $ in with KK. Pls make a different post for that hand to continue discussion pls as it is a different scenario entirely. |
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