Two CallTheFloor Events in One Tourney

[RR]

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Situation #2 is why I like the rule (in tournaments) that if you're not seated when the button gets his second card, your hand is dead. Done. Easy.

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This rule is generally not applied when the floor says "deal in the big blind, I am bringing you a player"

[Spook]

If a player doesn't protect his action on a later round, he forfits his right to bet.
Is there a rule for when there is already an uncalled bet infront of him?

[psandman]

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Situation #2 is why I like the rule (in tournaments) that if you're not seated when the button gets his second card, your hand is dead. Done. Easy.

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This rule is generally not applied when the floor says "deal in the big blind, I am bringing you a player"

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According to OP the Floor was not involved in this . . . The Player had "started to sit down" .

The Player was not the Big Blind.

Those two factors make this a different situation than when the floor comes over and says "deal in the big blind, I am bringing you a player"

[RR]

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Situation #2 is why I like the rule (in tournaments) that if you're not seated when the button gets his second card, your hand is dead. Done. Easy.

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This rule is generally not applied when the floor says "deal in the big blind, I am bringing you a player"

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According to OP the Floor was not involved in this . . . The Player had "started to sit down" .

The Player was not the Big Blind.

Those two factors make this a different situation than when the floor comes over and says "deal in the big blind, I am bringing you a player"

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I was in a hurry when I responded, but from the OP

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As they were combining down to two tables, a player came over and started to sit in the 10-seat. Cards were dealt to him as he was still moving his chips over and sitting down.

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There is no way this player loses his hand by not being in his seat, he was in the process of moving from another table, if he is dealt in before he arrives at the table the action shoudl wait for him to arrive. If he is not yet to the table he really shouldn't be dealt in, but once he is dealt in he has the right to act on his hand. This is not the situation TDA has in mind when someoen leaves the table and needs to be back at the table.

[psandman]

I envisioned the scenario a bit differently but on rereading I suspect I was incorrect about what was happening. I envisioned the guy shuffling over setting down some chips and the dealer starts dealing to him and he wanders off (without a word) to go get either the rest of his chips, his jacket, his drink or whatever and returns to the table has the player in seat six is folding his hand.

Now that I reread it, it doesn't appear that he went anywhere, but was just distracted from the game maybe standing next to his chair but physically there doing his thing.

However that being the case the player being present at the table has to have some responsibility for protecting his action. So this guy is there at the table and six players act behind him and he doesn't say a word. Now I understand that players can muck their hands pretty quickly, but 6 players all mucking thier hands is a lot of action happening behind this guy.

[bav]

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Now that I reread it, it doesn't appear that he went anywhere, but was just distracted from the game maybe standing next to his chair but physically there doing his thing.

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Right. And the reason I'm pretty fuzzy with detail is I was obviously not paying close enough attention or I wouldn't have folded my cards from the 3-seat as all this was happening. They'd broken a table, a couple folks were coming in, this guy set his chips down on the table while standing behind he chair and the dealer dealt him in. That's about the last I was watching the 10-seat. I see the 1-seat and 2-seat fold, look at may rags and toss 'em in. Watch everybody else fold to the blinds and suddenly the 1-seat puts in a big stack of chips and the blind starts grumbling.

The dealer should have been able to stop the action before it got too far, but dealers get distracted, and blaming the dealer solves nothing. I don't blame the 10-seat for failing to stop the action--he's distracted with the move. Don't blame the 1-seat for acting outta turn since he couldn't easily see that a new player was coming in to the 10-seat. Any other player at the table coulda been paying attention but wasn't. Don't blame the blind for thinking the raise shouldn't be allowed. It's pretty much a no-fault kinda issue that regardless needs to be resolved.

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This is a bad situation. His hand is going to be dead for failing to protect his action. On my first reading I didn't notice he was at the table.

A lot of these senerios that would be pretty easy to rule on in real life are hard online just because it can be hard to paint an accurate picture without being there in person.