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Old 11-25-2007, 04:07 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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aaronisrite.

i'm not sure if the rest of you are levelling me or have never played live poker or are boz and just being a bitch for the sport of it.

actually i'm pretty sure about one of those.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:08 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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but seriously folks...

no one fears a c/r? maybe my devil's advocating needs a little work?
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:49 PM
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but seriously folks...

no one fears a c/r? maybe my devil's advocating needs a little work?

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tyler, with the monster redraw, why do you care if you are check raised? It looks like a good way to trap for more bets to me.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:57 PM
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t,

lol if c/r i might 3-bet if conditions are right.

love,

j
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:01 PM
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no one fears a c/r?

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Not really. We could have the best hand already and, if not, we have a monster redraw. Risking check through is worse than risking c/r, in my opinion.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:10 AM
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i'm not sure if the rest of you are levelling me or have never played live poker

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QFMFT. When (if) you play live you will "profile" opponents based on their mannerisms, hairstyles, fashion, etc. etc., so it's not "wrong" to profile by race.

Unless, of course, you refuse to change said profile even if a certain opponent doesn't fit it.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:11 AM
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grunch...

bet, and call a check raise. You've got 9 outs to a nut flush, and will get crying calls on the river cos pot's big.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:49 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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mild hijack of my own thread imminent:

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i'm not sure if the rest of you are levelling me or have never played live poker

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QFMFT. When (if) you play live you will "profile" opponents based on their mannerisms, hairstyles, fashion, etc. etc., so it's not "wrong" to profile by race.


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it's not just poker, either. someone stops you in the street to ask for directions. you will know, with 99% confidence, in the first three seconds of that conversation if you are speaking with a local (in which case you give one set of directions) or a domestic tourist (in which case you give another set of directions) or a foreigner (in which case a third set). does this make you a racist? or are you just using all the information available (like a good poker player!) to provide the best solution?

anyway, this makes me a little testy because i'm such a slobbering fanboy of world culture. there is so much fear of "racism" that i can't even describe a person's obvious ethnic heritage without drawing penalty flags[**]. besides, i sat -- stoically -- through waaaay too many n*gger jokes at Thanksgiving to have my racial ethics called into question.


[**] most non-americans may read this as "drawing yellow cards". aussies can read it as "blarging shimble banthers lolol" or whatever the [censored]. see how worldly and culturally sensitive i am?
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:58 PM
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also tyler i bet here fwiw
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:04 PM
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it's not just poker, either. someone stops you in the street to ask for directions. you will know, with 99% confidence, in the first three seconds of that conversation if you are speaking with a local (in which case you give one set of directions) or a domestic tourist (in which case you give another set of directions) or a foreigner (in which case a third set). does this make you a racist? or are you just using all the information available (like a good poker player!) to provide the best solution?

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Here's the problem I have, Tyler (and, fwiw, I have no [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] for the current culture of offense, either): saying, "He's x," and expecting me to read, "ah, that means he's y at the poker table," is you expecting me to have the same experiences you do.** In other words, your asking us to critique your play without actually giving us a read.

Also, your example isn't really on-point. If you looked at a guy on the street and said, "Hmmm, he's wearing a t-shirt that says [something in German], he must not live around here I'd better not ask him for directions," that would be closer. Once you've spoken to him and realized that he's not a local, you've seen him play a hand and so you have a better read than just a default.

** fwiw, in my experience at Commerce/Bay101/SD Indian (sorry, non-immigrant Americans) casinos, the most likely worshipers of Gamblor are Latinos. Aisans are much more likely to be LP-TA. Middle Eastern/Eastern European players might as well be flinging chips onto the table with both hands.
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