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Old 11-25-2007, 05:42 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Top set should fold?

Now that I've noticed Villain's stats, I'm going to take another stab at this. First off, the preflop raise was smallish, and there were two calls in front of BB. Nevertheless, based on our 69-hand sample, he's pretty tight in to begin with.

So let's say he'll play any PP, any suited broadways, and any suited zero-gappers. That gives him 9 flush combos, and 6 reasonable set combos. Meanwhile, he might have 3-bet AhKh or AhQh preflop, but at the same time I'm not so sure we should have given Villain as tight of a suited range as I did.

Still, you have by far the better of the outs versus a flush/set range, and I'm not sure we should rule out, say, AhTs either. 75s may be a concern, but, basically, this is now looking like a slightly profitable call to me, and it helps too that Villain might not be in such a hurry to get his money in with a big flush. So while I probably didn't place enough AhXh hands in Villain's range on the flop, there's a good chance he wouldn't have open-pushed those AhXh hands on the turn, suggesting we should discount them.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:47 AM
teh_minbet_pokr teh_minbet_pokr is offline
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Default Re: Top set should fold?

raise more on flop, hand plays a lot easier
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: Top set should fold?

agree with others, raise more on the flop. Fold that donk turn push, just ain't worth it.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:15 AM
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Default Re: Top set should fold?

in general i agree with the concensus, but, did you observe any hands that villain played previously? if so, what was his holding/hand range? pp, AXs, sc etc? then you can make a clearer decision based on past hands villain played and how he played them.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Top set should fold?

Raise more on flop. You have two guys who appear to like their hands and you have the nuts.

Call turn. Villian has 66 here often enough. Plus you'll get to hear about how Stars is rigged, how you suck for making the call since it was obvious he had the flush, etc. He's been waiting hours for one of his PPs to hit a set....
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:00 AM
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Default Re: Top set should fold?

Your nuts to fold this.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: Top set should fold?

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Your nuts to fold this.

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what happened to his nuts [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]?

i agree tho
this looks a lot like a scare push with sth like TP+good heart, set
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:50 AM
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Your nuts to fold this.

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