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KK in SB 0.50/1.00
Read: 8.5/3/1.4/2.5/3.0 324 Hands
Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1 (HH Converter by Kreatief) UTG+1 ($62.15) UTG+2 ($74.40) MP1 ($55.60) MP2 ($11.53) MP3 ($20.75) CO ($38.77) Button ($43.75) SB ($15.85) (Hero) BB ($61.80) UTG ($17.95) Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( 11.25BB ) <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Button calls, Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( 12.25BB ) <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( 14.25BB ) <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, |
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Re: KK in SB 0.50/1.00
So, button 5bets preflop? Or is this an error in the converter?
If button did, indeed, put in the 5th and final raise preflop, I'd go for a c/r on the flop. Turn and river look great. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: KK in SB 0.50/1.00
Yes 5 bet is correct. No converter error.
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Re: KK in SB 0.50/1.00
On the flop:
AA is 6 combos QQ is 2 combos AQ is 12 combos but I doubt any of them are in his range given those stats. KK is 1 combo AK is 8 combos but should probably be discounted a bit. JJ is 6 combos but should probably be discounted. This looks like wa/wb to me. Most likely it's chop or beat though... I guess I wouldn't mind a c/c on the big streets either to avoid a raise. |
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Re: KK in SB 0.50/1.00
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Read: 8.5/3/1.4/2.5/3.0 324 Hands [/ QUOTE ] Btw, are these vpip/pfr/ and AF per postflop street? That's how I interpreted it, and pfr I used to narrow his range to those I listed. |
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Re: KK in SB 0.50/1.00
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Read: 8.5/3/1.4/2.5/3.0 324 Hands [/ QUOTE ] 8 VPIP, 3 PFR? I don't like when a nit limp/5-bets. Check-call and hope you don't see AA. If he's doing something stupid with random cards for some unknown reason, you don't want to slow him down. |
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Re: KK in SB 0.50/1.00
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If button did, indeed, put in the 5th and final raise preflop, I'd go for a c/r on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Could you explain your reasons for a c/r here? The pot is very big so maybe getting 2-3 out hands to fold is good. AA or KK will not fold I think. Qx may fold but it only has 2 outs any way. AQ has 5 outs but it is the only hand that has more than 3. Or are you going for value? Against the nit's probable range that doesn't look like a good idea to me. |
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Re: KK in SB 0.50/1.00
I'll join the chorus of people who are mildly confused about the stats you posted.
Unless you tell me otherwise, I am going to assume that his VPIP is 8.5 (!) and his PFR is 3. When a guy like this limp-reraises, watch out. Granted, his LRR was idiotic since he already had a guy call in front of him, but I think he's going to show you AA pretty much every single time, especially when he 5-bets you preflop. I would just c/c every street because he's either got AA or he's completely out of line with something weaker. There's not a lot of value in betting under either of those scenarios. |
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Re: KK in SB 0.50/1.00
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Could you explain your reasons for a c/r here? [/ QUOTE ] Sure. He capped preflop, so I'm putting him on a premium hand that isn't likely to fold (even JJ usually calls down after capping preflop and AK will usually c-bet the flop and call a raise, but fold the turn whether I check/raise or not). There are 16 combos of AK and 6 combos of JJ (22 total combos) that I beat. There are 6 combos of AA and 3 combos of QQ (9 total combos) that I lose to. There's only one remaining combo of KK for the chop. This means I'm ahead a lot more often than I'm behind. So, I extract maximum value in my flop c/r. If he 3bets, then I can call down. |
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Re: KK in SB 0.50/1.00
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[ QUOTE ] Could you explain your reasons for a c/r here? [/ QUOTE ] Sure. He capped preflop, so I'm putting him on a premium hand that isn't likely to fold (even JJ usually calls down after capping preflop and AK will usually c-bet the flop and call a raise, but fold the turn whether I check/raise or not). There are 16 combos of AK and 6 combos of JJ (22 total combos) that I beat. There are 6 combos of AA and 3 combos of QQ (9 total combos) that I lose to. There's only one remaining combo of KK for the chop. This means I'm ahead a lot more often than I'm behind. So, I extract maximum value in my flop c/r. If he 3bets, then I can call down. [/ QUOTE ] There's only 8 combos of AK. Hero holds two Kings. That doesn't of course change your reasoning behind the c/r. Now it would be 14 combos you beat vs 9 you don't. IMHO, I'd discount the JJ and AK because of Villain's very nitty stats and I'd discount them enough that a c/r doesn't look appealing to me, regardless that c/r looking the best way to lose CO from the big pot. Nevertheless, we are in guesstimate land now so there is no point in arguing that much further. There's a small chance that my guesstimate has become results oriented too. I can't see faults in your logic for the c/r or your plan for the rest of the hand, just the premises. |
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