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Old 11-24-2007, 07:18 PM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: So I\'m going to Prison for 2 years

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you know all those poker bad beats stories you hear, do you actually believe all of them? People like to dress themselves up in the best way possible to the outside world, even if you are their best friend or some stranger at the bar

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Of course they do. But I would rather err on the side of caution and give some folks whose opinion I respect the benefit of the doubt than give authority absolute power to do things like illegal stops

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and tell everyone who complains that they're a bunch of whiners and that their stories are BS. You seem perfectly content dismissing everyone with a complaint, no matter how legitimate or otherwise. I am not fine doing that, and would like to think I can judge for myself the credibility of these outcomes, and thanks to the internet there are reams of data/links that back up that things have gone too far.

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If you blow a .08, you are impaired to the point where you shouldn't be driving. If you don't feel drunk, its because you are more used to it, not that you are less impaired. Blowing a .08 requires a significant amount of alcohol and is easily preventable. Because of this, I don't feel sorry for your friends (or my uncle or my friends) who have gotten a DUI.

I also don't believe all of what your (or my) friends said about their experience.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:30 PM
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If you blow a .08, you are impaired to the point where you shouldn't be driving.

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Until a few years ago and I believe still in some states and probably in many other countries, .08 was within the law. Here, it was .12 until just a few years prior to that. Is your opinion of intoxication 100% beholden to the laws of your state? So .0799999... is OK? What if you live in a state where it's .08 but on the border of a state where .10 is still the limit? Are you fine with driving home until you get to the border?

The problem is that I don't think you really understand what .08 feels like, and certainly don't know what it feels like to regular drinkers, and worst of all are trying to tell someone in this thread who acknowledged doing research on alcohol impairment that he's wrong. But I'm sure MADD and lawyers and other "do-gooders" will find a way to drop it to .06 and then you can argue that that's too much, people shouldn't be driving in that condition.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:42 PM
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If you blow a .08, you are impaired to the point where you shouldn't be driving.

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Until a few years ago and I believe still in some states and probably in many other countries, .08 was within the law. Here, it was .12 until just a few years prior to that. Is your opinion of intoxication 100% beholden to the laws of your state? So .0799999... is OK? What if you live in a state where it's .08 but on the border of a state where .10 is still the limit? Are you fine with driving home until you get to the border?

The problem is that I don't think you really understand what .08 feels like, and certainly don't know what it feels like to regular drinkers, and worst of all are trying to tell someone in this thread who acknowledged doing research on alcohol impairment that he's wrong. But I'm sure MADD and lawyers and other "do-gooders" will find a way to drop it to .06 and then you can argue that that's too much, people shouldn't be driving in that condition.

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You appear to be comparing bananas to grapefruit, sir.
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