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Old 11-23-2007, 02:46 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Villain is 20/16/2.1 over 300 hands. Hero has TAG image.

NL100 6max, 100BBs stacks.
3 fold
Hero raises to $3.50 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB calls
BB folds

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks
Hero bets $6
Villain raises to $16
Hero calls $10

Turn 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain bets $30
Hero folds

<font color="red">IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY IM A BUNNY I LOSE ALL POTS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BETTER HANDS</font>

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Assuming you've been raising the button lots, his range could be pretty wide here. Like any J. I'd probably call the turn. If he fires again on the river, it's a tough call but button vs. blind I probably call down.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

UTG is 53/11/1.56 and folds ~30%, calls ~60% and raises ~10% to c-bets.

CO is 66/19/5 and I cant remember his c-bet stats, but he didnt fold to much more than half of c-bets.

Do you c-bet this flop repping an A, despite their post flop looseness?

Do you just limp behind these clowns preflop, figuring to get paid off pretty well if you hit a set?


Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $68.30
MP: $119.60
CO: $96.05
Hero (BTN): $105.60
SB: $119.05
BB: $98.50

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $1, MP folds, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $5, CO calls $5

Flop: ($19.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:26 PM
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Villain is 37/17/8 in only 35 hands. I dont have much of a read, but I have 3 bet him preflop before and he folded. Considering his short stack, how's my line here?

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BB: $112.30
UTG: $132.40
MP: $202.55
CO: $45
Hero (BTN): $144.20
SB: $93.65

Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $8

Flop: ($23.50) 9 Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($23.50) 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $36</font>
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Not that I know anything, but I am in a posting mood.

Hand one, check intending to fold. People with those stats are calling with JT and KT as well as Qs and As, I would be surprised if you get the folds you want.

Hand two is fine. I often do the check thing here trying to rep a really big hand with the raise on the turn.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:00 PM
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Hand two is fine. I often do the check thing here trying to rep a really big hand with the raise on the turn.

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Checking behind this board texture reps a weak hand.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:19 PM
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Hand two is fine. I often do the check thing here trying to rep a really big hand with the raise on the turn.

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Checking behind this board texture reps a weak hand.

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Yeah it does, but once you raise the turn it doesn't as much. It looks like a check to induce a bet.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:23 PM
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Hand two is fine. I often do the check thing here trying to rep a really big hand with the raise on the turn.

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Checking behind this board texture reps a weak hand.

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Yeah it does, but once you raise the turn it doesn't as much. It looks like a check to induce a bet.

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Personally I would think, ok he checked behind that flop? Can't have much, ok what's change on the turn? Diamonds, ship it I'm not folding a any pair.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:59 PM
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Villain is 37/17/8 in only 35 hands. I dont have much of a read, but I have 3 bet him preflop before and he folded. Considering his short stack, how's my line here?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $112.30
UTG: $132.40
MP: $202.55
CO: $45
Hero (BTN): $144.20
SB: $93.65

Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $8

Flop: ($23.50) 9 Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($23.50) 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $36</font>

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This looks fine to me. If you c-bet that flop it has to be with the intention of calling a shove.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:16 PM
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cha,

i like it.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:41 PM
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Cha

Hand 1 - I do just limp behind the clowns preflop. This is one of those times that doesn't look great to C-bet, but you might find yourself surprised how often it folds around when you donkishly bet 1/2 pot into multiple clowns. Yeah you might not fold out any pairs, maybe not even a 5, but you don't have to be right that often and you are more likely than not to be drawn out if you are ahead. Also, there's that once in a blue moon where you improve and stack someone.

Hand 2 - Maybe I just feel contrarian at the moment, but calling the turn is guaranteed +EV and raising isn't. You are more than a 2 to 1 dog if he has a Queen and I don't think he's folding one. You might be able to call the turn and make a sick call on the river if you don't improve.
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