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Old 11-22-2007, 03:37 PM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.

depends on feel imo how i play this. history with villain and how i think he views me. I like it.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.

I just get it in on the flop.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.

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It's annoying that we're deep here. However I would still prefer to B3B the flop since we have top set. We max out the value vs the two lower sets and worst case scenario we have like 40% equity. We also charge him for drawing with Ah.
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.

any other votes for 3-bet?
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.

id like you to respond to my question about how its better to get it in on the turn.
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.

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id like you to respond to my question about how its better to get it in on the turn.

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Because equity wise it isn't going to make much of a difference either way: a)he has 22/44 and is crushed or b)he flopped a flush and I'm drawing to 7 outs. My equity against a flush doesn't change all THAT much from the flop to the turn. That, combined w/ the fact that I think his range for getting it on the flop is much stronger than the turn, is what made me take this line.
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.

turn could be a scare card that kills your action vs 222/444 though loos
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Top set on SOAKING wet board.

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id like you to respond to my question about how its better to get it in on the turn.

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Because equity wise it isn't going to make much of a difference either way: a)he has 22/44 and is crushed or b)he flopped a flush and I'm drawing to 7 outs. My equity against a flush doesn't change all THAT much from the flop to the turn. That, combined w/ the fact that I think his range for getting it on the flop is much stronger than the turn, is what made me take this line.

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if he flopped a flush you have 9 outs on the turn and 10 on the river.

there are other cards besides 22 and 44

he may have 2 overs + draw which against a hand like 99 he has great equity, an overpair plus draw.

anyhow your equity if he does have a flush changes significantly you go from 2:1 to almost 4:1 dog. we see both card when we get it in on the flop
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:23 PM
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2:1 to almost 4:1 dog

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I'm a 3:1 dog on the turn...not 4. And maybe I'm way off on this, but if I've already decided the money is going in somewhere (barring a blank turn), then why does it even really matter what my actual equity is. I'm playing against his range, and like I mentioned earlier, I think his range for getting it in on the flop this deep is much stronger than w/ the line I took since he'll sometimes shove over me w/ the bare A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:44 PM
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My equity against a flush doesn't change all THAT much from the flop to the turn.

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I'm pretty sure going from 35% to 20% is, in fact, significant.

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I think his range for getting it on the flop is much stronger than the turn

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I'm also pretty sure this is wrong.
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