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Old 11-21-2007, 03:49 AM
Marduk Marduk is offline
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he prob would give my repect more flat then yours

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how high are you right now?
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

is the 3k raise standard for tmay? haven't played w him much
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

I 3bet call shove. tmay def steals utg from time to time and I think 24bb effective stacks are just shallow enough where 3bet > flat, though tmay is certainly a tight player in general.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

for you guys that flat call... what do you do w/ 99?

i just fold 99, and i dont think folding here w/ TT would be crazy - that said, i think i like 3bet/calling or just shoving better, and either is bettre than calling. Once we get over 30bbs i like calling better.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

What would people's 3 bet sizes be in this spot btw?
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

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Old 11-21-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

9300 is superior
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: Kinda simple Preflop spot v Tmay in 109r

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What would people's 3 bet sizes be in this spot btw?

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8k or so I don't mind the 1chip raise and if he go stop gos me I have a pair so I call.

I think 8k gets him to fold AQ in this spot as well.
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:07 AM
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for you guys that flat call... what do you do w/ 99?


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Old 11-21-2007, 06:47 PM
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I 3bet call shove. tmay def steals utg from time to time and I think 24bb effective stacks are just shallow enough where 3bet > flat, though tmay is certainly a tight player in general.

[/ QUOTE ] bro i dont understand this. algthough we still have a big stack if he lose i dont understand why we would 3 bet, i think its to big of a risk when hes never stacking off lighter and he still has some play. It just seems like ur a little to deep to re raise, even if hes raising light under the gun i think we can fairly assume hes not 4 bet shoving light. Just seems like were to deep to 3 bet imo, id call and probably shove any flop where i flop an overpair
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