200NL; Folding KK here?

paiz · #1 11-21-2007, 01:10 AM

Ugh I hate this. A 4-bet from an opponent like this is almost surely AA right? So I agree with the call pf but does that mean we just check-fold all non-K flops? I think playing KK like this is waaaay too weak but at the same time a 14/9 doesn't usually show up 4-betting AK or QQ.

I agree with the river fold but given villian's stats I don't ever think we can put him on an 8.

sightless · #2 11-21-2007, 01:19 AM

easy shove on river imo
and bet more on turn

Al_Money · #3 11-21-2007, 01:20 AM

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you are ahead of exactly one hand, that almost definitely does not take this line.

sightless · #4 11-21-2007, 01:22 AM

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easy shove on river imo

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you are ahead of exactly one hand, that almost definitely does not take this line.

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why bet turn then?

i dont know
I just see us having him beat more often when he calls our all in, than when we call his
i could be way off

Al_Money · #5 11-21-2007, 01:23 AM

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you are ahead of exactly one hand, that almost definitely does not take this line.

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why bet turn then?

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where did I say to bet turn? vs. this guy I am likely checking turn.

edit: you realize he cold 4 bet, right?

sightless · #6 11-21-2007, 01:26 AM

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easy shove on river imo

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you are ahead of exactly one hand, that almost definitely does not take this line.

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why bet turn then?

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where did I say to bet turn? vs. this guy I am likely checking turn.

edit: you realize he cold 4 bet, right?

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yes so whats your line

Al_Money · #7 11-21-2007, 01:29 AM

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easy shove on river imo

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you are ahead of exactly one hand, that almost definitely does not take this line.

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why bet turn then?

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where did I say to bet turn? vs. this guy I am likely checking turn.

edit: you realize he cold 4 bet, right?

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yes so whats your line

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I think betting the turn and shutting down after that is fine. Check/calling one street seems ok too, but if I c/c turn then I am giving up on the river.

paiz · #8 11-21-2007, 01:21 AM

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Could you explain how this is an easy shove?

Don Key E37 · #9 11-21-2007, 01:24 AM

could u please explain your style/image. This is a lot different if your 13/9 or your 30/24. I'd still get it in a lot here.