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11-20-2007, 11:04 PM
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Re: English-only policy
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Passed over for that manager spot at Taco Bell? [/ QUOTE ] you don't see the double standard? maybe it's like at uni where only whites can be racist, by definition. [/ QUOTE ] I have never heard of any professional being told they needed to learn Spanish. Not sure what you mean by double standard. I am cool with employers requiring whatever language skills they want whether it be English or anything else they think the job requires. [/ QUOTE ] I consider myself to be a "professional" and my superiors recently posted a memo requiring all personnel working in an "Enforcement" capacity to complete the state's mandatory "Tactical Spanish Communication" course. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, i mean this seems totally reasonable. Its not like people are loosing their jobs because they didn't get the symbolism in a passage of Don Quixote. Do you think that having this training will make you better at your job? [/ QUOTE ] I've got two more Saturdays to go before I recieve the certification, and the language I've learned so far is all very basic: "Parada" "Móntese el Suelo" "No Mueva" "Usted está detenido" and "Marihuana" "Cocaína" "Armas" Etc. I'm not going to be fluent by any stretch of the imagination, but I do know enough phrases. My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it. I certainly have no problem with those who've freely taken the courses being looked upon highly when a promotion comes up, as speaking Spanish is a skill, just as taking additional law courses, combat courses, or fitness courses. As to the OP, I also believe that a business is certainly entitled to require all employees to speak English. Let's not forget, English is, by far, the most commonly spoken language in America. 
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#2
11-21-2007, 01:53 AM
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My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it [regarding Spanish skills for a job]. ... As to the OP, I also believe that a business is certainly entitled to require all employees to speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Hypocrisy ftw.
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#3
11-21-2007, 01:57 AM
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Re: English-only policy
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[ QUOTE ] My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it [regarding Spanish skills for a job]. ... As to the OP, I also believe that a business is certainly entitled to require all employees to speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Hypocrisy ftw. [/ QUOTE ] Its not hypocrisy, it's common sense. What language are you communicating in now? I certainly wouldn't hire someone who to work for me who couldn't communicate with me or my customers.
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#4
11-21-2007, 02:02 AM
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Re: English-only policy
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it [regarding Spanish skills for a job]. ... As to the OP, I also believe that a business is certainly entitled to require all employees to speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Hypocrisy ftw. [/ QUOTE ] Its not hypocrisy, it's common sense. What language are you communicating in now? I certainly wouldn't hire someone who to work for me who couldn't communicate with me or my customers. [/ QUOTE ] But some of your customers speak Spanish so again your logic fails. Or rather you just justified the very policy you are railing against. Oh and LOL at using what language we're using here on a private poker forum as some sort of point in this debate. Muy loco, hombre.
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11-21-2007, 02:09 AM
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Re: English-only policy
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it [regarding Spanish skills for a job]. ... As to the OP, I also believe that a business is certainly entitled to require all employees to speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Hypocrisy ftw. [/ QUOTE ] Its not hypocrisy, it's common sense. What language are you communicating in now? I certainly wouldn't hire someone who to work for me who couldn't communicate with me or my customers. [/ QUOTE ] But some of your customers speak Spanish so again your logic fails. Or rather you just justified the very policy you are railing against. Oh and LOL at using what language we're using here on a private poker forum as some sort of point in this debate. Muy loco, hombre. [/ QUOTE ] Again, please quote the post where I said being bilingual wasn't a positive. I've repeatedly said that being bilingual is a plus. If some of my customers speak Spanish, someone who is bilingual will have an advantage if I require that, but it still doesn't change the fact that the majority of my customers will speak English.
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11-21-2007, 02:13 AM
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Re: English-only policy
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it [regarding Spanish skills for a job]. ... As to the OP, I also believe that a business is certainly entitled to require all employees to speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Hypocrisy ftw. [/ QUOTE ] Its not hypocrisy, it's common sense. What language are you communicating in now? I certainly wouldn't hire someone who to work for me who couldn't communicate with me or my customers. [/ QUOTE ] But some of your customers speak Spanish so again your logic fails. Or rather you just justified the very policy you are railing against. Oh and LOL at using what language we're using here on a private poker forum as some sort of point in this debate. Muy loco, hombre. [/ QUOTE ] Again, please quote the post where I said being bilingual wasn't a positive. I've repeatedly said that being bilingual is a plus. If some of my customers speak Spanish, someone who is bilingual will have an advantage if I require that, but it still doesn't change the fact that the majority of my customers will speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Look above at what I quoted. You clearly claimed to have a problem with the mandatory Spanish training for your job. So I already quoted what you are looking for. Read the rest of your post I replied to for the rest.
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#7
11-21-2007, 02:21 AM
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Re: English-only policy
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it [regarding Spanish skills for a job]. ... As to the OP, I also believe that a business is certainly entitled to require all employees to speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Hypocrisy ftw. [/ QUOTE ] Its not hypocrisy, it's common sense. What language are you communicating in now? I certainly wouldn't hire someone who to work for me who couldn't communicate with me or my customers. [/ QUOTE ] But some of your customers speak Spanish so again your logic fails. Or rather you just justified the very policy you are railing against. Oh and LOL at using what language we're using here on a private poker forum as some sort of point in this debate. Muy loco, hombre. [/ QUOTE ] Again, please quote the post where I said being bilingual wasn't a positive. I've repeatedly said that being bilingual is a plus. If some of my customers speak Spanish, someone who is bilingual will have an advantage if I require that, but it still doesn't change the fact that the majority of my customers will speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Look above at what I quoted. You clearly claimed to have a problem with the mandatory Spanish training for your job. So I already quoted what you are looking for. Read the rest of your post I replied to for the rest. [/ QUOTE ] I still didn't see anywhere in there where I said that being bilingual wasn't a plus. As a matter of fact, this is from that very post, which you snipped: [ QUOTE ] My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it. I certainly have no problem with those who've freely taken the courses being looked upon highly when a promotion comes up, as speaking Spanish is a skill, just as taking additional law courses, combat courses, or fitness courses. [/ QUOTE ]
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#8
11-21-2007, 12:17 PM
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Re: English-only policy
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it [regarding Spanish skills for a job]. ... As to the OP, I also believe that a business is certainly entitled to require all employees to speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Hypocrisy ftw. [/ QUOTE ] Its not hypocrisy, it's common sense. What language are you communicating in now? I certainly wouldn't hire someone who to work for me who couldn't communicate with me or my customers. [/ QUOTE ] But some people *would* hire someone who can't speak english. Often, this does not cause an inability to communicate with the boss, and often, these people don't directly interact with customers. What's so horrible about that?
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#9
11-21-2007, 05:06 PM
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Re: English-only policy
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My problem is with the "mandatory" part of it [regarding Spanish skills for a job]. ... As to the OP, I also believe that a business is certainly entitled to require all employees to speak English. [/ QUOTE ] Hypocrisy ftw. [/ QUOTE ] Its not hypocrisy, it's common sense. What language are you communicating in now? I certainly wouldn't hire someone who to work for me who couldn't communicate with me or my customers. [/ QUOTE ] But some people *would* hire someone who can't speak english. Often, this does not cause an inability to communicate with the boss, and often, these people don't directly interact with customers. What's so horrible about that? [/ QUOTE ] Honestly, this is the same ridiculous argument I just had with Kaj. I could honestly care less whether the owner hires them or not, however, I personally will not attempt to conduct business dealings in a foreign language, so I will leave. My main reason for being here is to protect the owners right to fire them, if he or she so chooses.
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#10
11-21-2007, 07:40 PM
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Honestly, this is the same ridiculous argument I just had with Kaj. I could honestly care less whether the owner hires them or not, [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It is a positive to have employees who can communicate in Spanish. However, it is imperative that you be able to communicate in English! [/ QUOTE ] Your emphasis.
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