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Old 11-18-2007, 10:03 PM
istewart istewart is offline
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Default Re: Villain\'s river play any good?

Ya Oink that's the problem, he's only repping some crap he backdoored into. Maybe I'm just retarded.

Villain is Shuxer, V4P.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: Villain\'s river play any good?

Yea, he can be pretty spazzy, especially against fellow TAGs. I'd never fold this river vs him
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Villain\'s river play any good?

I think villain's play here is to check/fold the flop. Certainly for hero calling the river is a no-brainer.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: Villain\'s river play any good?

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I think villain's play here is to check/fold the flop. Certainly for hero calling the river is a no-brainer.

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flop c/r is fine.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Villain\'s river play any good?

3b flop plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wow
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:37 PM
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I think villain's play here is to check/fold the flop. Certainly for hero calling the river is a no-brainer.

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flop c/r is fine.

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Why? I c/f because I have no pair and no draw, not even a backdoor draw. The ace high flop hits hero's range often and rarely is KK/QQ folding, especially if hero knows that villain liberally check-raises ace high flops.

Rather frequently villain gets 3-bet on the flop, or else gets called and then raised on the turn when he is drawing dead. Also, he has to commit to betting the turn and sometimes even the river as a desperate 3 barrel bluff. Generally when called on the flop hero is seeing a showdown. So really, the only value to this play is getting hero to fold to a check-raise on the flop. If I am going to make this play, I'll at least have a gutshot or backdoor flush draw, something.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:44 PM
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I think villain's play here is to check/fold the flop. Certainly for hero calling the river is a no-brainer.

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flop c/r is fine.

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Why? I c/f because I have no pair and no draw, not even a backdoor draw. The ace high flop hits hero's range often and rarely is KK/QQ folding, especially if hero knows that villain liberally check-raises ace high flops.

Rather frequently villain gets 3-bet on the flop, or else gets called and then raised on the turn when he is drawing dead. Also, he has to commit to betting the turn and sometimes even the river as a desperate 3 barrel bluff. Generally when called on the flop hero is seeing a showdown. So really, the only value to this play is getting hero to fold to a check-raise on the flop. If I am going to make this play, I'll at least have a gutshot or backdoor flush draw, something.

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Well it would be good if hero opened OTB or the CO. But a lot of villains range misses this flop and he often folds right away.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: Villain\'s river play any good?

Villain played this hand horribly.

You're never betting that river without a hand that can stand a checkraise. Terrible bluff spot considering the board texture (missed draws, etc.)
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