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11-18-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
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[ QUOTE ] What level are you playing? In my games (.50) this is a flush like 90%+ of the time vs a lp. I would fold pretty easily and not think anything of it. [/ QUOTE ] It's 2/4 in Ongame. And this is not a flush 90% of the time in my games.. Actually this wasn't the only time today i saw loose-passive donking the river with TPTK after calling down flop and turn. [/ QUOTE ] that changes things a lot. you should provide this info in the op. looks like an easy r/f to me with this new info. 
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#13
11-18-2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What level are you playing? In my games (.50) this is a flush like 90%+ of the time vs a lp. I would fold pretty easily and not think anything of it. [/ QUOTE ] It's 2/4 in Ongame. And this is not a flush 90% of the time in my games.. Actually this wasn't the only time today i saw loose-passive donking the river with TPTK after calling down flop and turn. [/ QUOTE ] that changes things a lot. you should provide this info in the op. looks like an easy r/f to me with this new info. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't have this read yet when playing this particular hand. But I agree this is a raise with the read.
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#15
11-18-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
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how long did it take you to develop a read that this is not a flush 90% of the time in your games? [/ QUOTE ] I got an read that this player have donked river cards with one pair, and made a conclusion that this prolly not a flush 90% of the time.
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#16
11-18-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
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[ QUOTE ] how long did it take you to develop a read that this is not a flush 90% of the time in your games? [/ QUOTE ] I got an read that this player have donked river cards with one pair, and made a conclusion that this prolly not a flush 90% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] then isnt this an easier call??? Raising would be bad.
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#17
11-18-2007, 05:30 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] how long did it take you to develop a read that this is not a flush 90% of the time in your games? [/ QUOTE ] I got an read that this player have donked river cards with one pair, and made a conclusion that this prolly not a flush 90% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] then isnt this an easier call??? Raising would be bad. [/ QUOTE ] I don't get it... why wouldn't i be more inclined to raise for value if he's donking with one pair hands?
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#18
11-18-2007, 05:33 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
b/c for the most part this is still true:
[ QUOTE ] In my experience this is either a flush or a busted draw. Sometimes it is a marginal hand donking the scarecard. If its a flush raising sucks If its a broken draw that donk/folds raising does nothing for you If its a marginal hand that donk/calls raising is good. This is one of the two first two too often for me to raise. [/ QUOTE ]
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#19
11-18-2007, 06:06 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
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[ QUOTE ] how long did it take you to develop a read that this is not a flush 90% of the time in your games? [/ QUOTE ] I got an read that this player have donked river cards with one pair, and made a conclusion that this prolly not a flush 90% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand. if you've seen him donk river cards with one pair why did you assume he doesn't have a flush 90% of the time? maybe if he has a pair he donks 30% of the time and if he has a flush 100% of the time but you just haven't seen any of those situations yet. i think you have to be more careful with formulating reads.
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#20
11-18-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
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folding here is bad. I played those stakes as well and regardless of limits when fish donks here they can have a lot more than flushes. Getting 10.5 he needs to have you beat about 92% for you to fold. Seriously. You cant ever fold here unless you have a VERY VERY good read. [/ QUOTE ] even with a very very good read, you still call with two pair. This thread is stupid. He has a flush most of the time, you can't raise. He's also a LP fish, which means he sucks at poker, and you have two pair, and the pots big. So basically, folding sucks, raising sucks, calling is all that's left. Raise folding the river online is hardly ever the right play, and it's not here. Plus, is our hand good enough to raise the river? Those discount the flush? why, he played his hand like a flush draw, and bet when it hits. Looks like a flush to me.
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