borodog's mistaken understanding of M3...don't listen to his drivel

[Money2Burn]

I will never understand [censored] like this, internet grudges are almost as retarded as real life grudges. How can two people as intelligent as you two get this crazy over something so insignificant?

cliffs notes:

"Yo dawg! you stepped on my PUMA's! You betta recognize sucka"

"Dawg, those ain't even PUMA's! Theys ADIDAS foo!"

"You sayin I ain't wearin shoes Yo?!!"

"I's SAYIN, YO MOMMAS AN UGLY HO!"

"AWWWWWW SHITT Ima gon get my GAT and shoot yo in yo grill!"

[Zygote]

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I will never understand [censored] like this, internet grudges are almost as retarded as real life grudges. How can two people as intelligent as you two get this crazy over something so insignificant?

cliffs notes:

"Yo dawg! you stepped on my PUMA's! You betta recognize sucka"

"Dawg, those ain't even PUMA's! Theys ADIDAS foo!"

"You sayin I ain't wearin shoes Yo?!!"

"I's SAYIN, YO MOMMAS AN UGLY HO!"

"AWWWWWW SHITT Ima gon get my GAT and shoot yo in yo grill!"

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i personally wish they were fighting over something more substantial. The hissing comments are the best part of this thread but a little quality meat would've made going through much more interesting.

[Orlando Salazar]

It seems they are arguing over whether Boro is miseducating less informed posters on economics. I'd say that has some meat. But word is Boro hit on DCFR's girl too. That make it way more interesting.

[DcifrThs]

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It seems they are arguing over whether Boro is miseducating less informed posters on economics. I'd say that has some meat. But word is Boro hit on DCFR's girl too. That make it way more interesting.

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he hasn't hit on my girl. but the first thing is definitely part of why he upsets me so.

i can't wait for him to respond to this though:

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you can't change the fact that you have used numerous times in the past the cessation of the printing of M3 as ammunition saying that "they just stopped doing it because it looks worse." well, if you took 3 seconds to look up what was actually contained in M3 you'd see there are things that are distortive, informationwise as the use of repos has exponentially increased, without increasing the value of the indicator....

...or maybe you did look up M3 and saw it contained things that you didn't understand or know the extent of (repos) and just assumed it was a govt conspiracy anyways.

now you want to say "well it doesn't matter M2, M3, who gives a sh*t," but you can't. why? simply because you've used the not publishing of M3, like i just said, as evidence against the fed.

NOTE: please reread that before continuing. i'm not delving into a fed interest rate debate here. i'm simply saying that evidence you've used in the past is that it is fishy that the fed chose to stop publication of M3. Ron Paul has used the same in his speaches, but none of the opposition understood what could have been the real reason. notice that ron paul DIDNT say that when ben bernanke was the one being questioned because he would have gotten it shoved down his throat while he DID delve into almost every other major issue he had while he had his time at the M&B committee testimony.


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I scoffed at the idea that the reason they stopped publishing it is cost


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ok, so you scoffed that they stopped the publication b/c of cost. but why? what was your alternative hypothesis?

you didn't possibly consider the reason they stopped publishing it is a combination of usefulness (repos distorting it) and cost...like they (the fed) said.


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No more, no less. Oh, but I forget! The government would never have any motives that aren't pure as the driven snow. No, it couldn't POSSIBLY be that M3 just looks worse than M2.


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well, a poster below me said it so i'll just quote his reply:


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Boro I don't think you can both at the same time say "No more, no less." and "No, it couldn't POSSIBLY be that M3 just looks worse than M2." I have yet to see something that the M3 numbers are more accurate then the m2 numbers. You have stated that the M3 number is the important one, and the only reason that you have given is that it's looks worse. Nor have you made a statement regarding the cost to the fed to acquire M3 versus extra knowledge that can gleamed above M2. I'll grant you motive that the fed might not want to publish numbers that make them look bad, but is there any other reason then a MO, that this is a conspiracy?


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so boro, call me crazy, keep belittling me and getting backing, it doesn't matter. the fact that you won't "let me get away with it" will only back you into a acorner until you will have to admit you are wrong...which is what i want.

you might even say something like "OK FINE, scoffing at the cost was a means i used to sell people on the conspiracy to stop printing it" or some other quick one liner to now discount this discussion without actually admitting being wrong. that won't fly and we'll keep at it until you have admitting your incorrectness here.

if that makes me crazy, so be it. but all the crazy insults, therapy cats, or other belittling words (no matter how funny...because therapy cat was not a 9/10, it was 10/10) won't distract from the goal i set out here of insulting you (may or may not be accomplished, but either way i'll concentrate more on the next goal) and to prove you wrong.

Barron


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Barron

[DcifrThs]

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It seems they are arguing over whether Boro is miseducating less informed posters on economics. I'd say that has some meat. But word is Boro hit on DCFR's girl too. That make it way more interesting.

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he hasn't hit on my girl. but the first thing is definitely part of why he upsets me so.

i can't wait for him to respond to this though:

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you can't change the fact that you have used numerous times in the past the cessation of the printing of M3 as ammunition saying that "they just stopped doing it because it looks worse." well, if you took 3 seconds to look up what was actually contained in M3 you'd see there are things that are distortive, informationwise as the use of repos has exponentially increased, without increasing the value of the indicator....

...or maybe you did look up M3 and saw it contained things that you didn't understand or know the extent of (repos) and just assumed it was a govt conspiracy anyways.

now you want to say "well it doesn't matter M2, M3, who gives a sh*t," but you can't. why? simply because you've used the not publishing of M3, like i just said, as evidence against the fed.

NOTE: please reread that before continuing. i'm not delving into a fed interest rate debate here. i'm simply saying that evidence you've used in the past is that it is fishy that the fed chose to stop publication of M3. Ron Paul has used the same in his speaches, but none of the opposition understood what could have been the real reason. notice that ron paul DIDNT say that when ben bernanke was the one being questioned because he would have gotten it shoved down his throat while he DID delve into almost every other major issue he had while he had his time at the M&B committee testimony.


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I scoffed at the idea that the reason they stopped publishing it is cost




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ok, so you scoffed that they stopped the publication b/c of cost. but why? what was your alternative hypothesis?

you didn't possibly consider the reason they stopped publishing it is a combination of usefulness (repos distorting it) and cost...like they (the fed) said.


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No more, no less. Oh, but I forget! The government would never have any motives that aren't pure as the driven snow. No, it couldn't POSSIBLY be that M3 just looks worse than M2.




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well, a poster below me said it so i'll just quote his reply:


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Boro I don't think you can both at the same time say "No more, no less." and "No, it couldn't POSSIBLY be that M3 just looks worse than M2." I have yet to see something that the M3 numbers are more accurate then the m2 numbers. You have stated that the M3 number is the important one, and the only reason that you have given is that it's looks worse. Nor have you made a statement regarding the cost to the fed to acquire M3 versus extra knowledge that can gleamed above M2. I'll grant you motive that the fed might not want to publish numbers that make them look bad, but is there any other reason then a MO, that this is a conspiracy?




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so boro, call me crazy, keep belittling me and getting backing, it doesn't matter. the fact that you won't "let me get away with it" will only back you into a acorner until you will have to admit you are wrong...which is what i want.

you might even say something like "OK FINE, scoffing at the cost was a means i used to sell people on the conspiracy to stop printing it" or some other quick one liner to now discount this discussion without actually admitting being wrong. that won't fly and we'll keep at it until you have admitting your incorrectness here.

if that makes me crazy, so be it. but all the crazy insults, therapy cats, or other belittling words (no matter how funny...because therapy cat was not a 9/10, it was 10/10) won't distract from the goal i set out here of insulting you (may or may not be accomplished, but either way i'll concentrate more on the next goal) and to prove you wrong.

Barron


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Barron

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Borodog,

you can't possibly expect the mayor of crazytown to go through all the trouble of making this thread and then have you get away with not addressing the above issue.

please to be addressing it now, thanks,

Barron

[DcifrThs]

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It seems they are arguing over whether Boro is miseducating less informed posters on economics. I'd say that has some meat. But word is Boro hit on DCFR's girl too. That make it way more interesting.

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he hasn't hit on my girl. but the first thing is definitely part of why he upsets me so.

i can't wait for him to respond to this though:

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you can't change the fact that you have used numerous times in the past the cessation of the printing of M3 as ammunition saying that "they just stopped doing it because it looks worse." well, if you took 3 seconds to look up what was actually contained in M3 you'd see there are things that are distortive, informationwise as the use of repos has exponentially increased, without increasing the value of the indicator....

...or maybe you did look up M3 and saw it contained things that you didn't understand or know the extent of (repos) and just assumed it was a govt conspiracy anyways.

now you want to say "well it doesn't matter M2, M3, who gives a sh*t," but you can't. why? simply because you've used the not publishing of M3, like i just said, as evidence against the fed.

NOTE: please reread that before continuing. i'm not delving into a fed interest rate debate here. i'm simply saying that evidence you've used in the past is that it is fishy that the fed chose to stop publication of M3. Ron Paul has used the same in his speaches, but none of the opposition understood what could have been the real reason. notice that ron paul DIDNT say that when ben bernanke was the one being questioned because he would have gotten it shoved down his throat while he DID delve into almost every other major issue he had while he had his time at the M&B committee testimony.


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I scoffed at the idea that the reason they stopped publishing it is cost




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ok, so you scoffed that they stopped the publication b/c of cost. but why? what was your alternative hypothesis?

you didn't possibly consider the reason they stopped publishing it is a combination of usefulness (repos distorting it) and cost...like they (the fed) said.


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No more, no less. Oh, but I forget! The government would never have any motives that aren't pure as the driven snow. No, it couldn't POSSIBLY be that M3 just looks worse than M2.




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well, a poster below me said it so i'll just quote his reply:


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Boro I don't think you can both at the same time say "No more, no less." and "No, it couldn't POSSIBLY be that M3 just looks worse than M2." I have yet to see something that the M3 numbers are more accurate then the m2 numbers. You have stated that the M3 number is the important one, and the only reason that you have given is that it's looks worse. Nor have you made a statement regarding the cost to the fed to acquire M3 versus extra knowledge that can gleamed above M2. I'll grant you motive that the fed might not want to publish numbers that make them look bad, but is there any other reason then a MO, that this is a conspiracy?




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so boro, call me crazy, keep belittling me and getting backing, it doesn't matter. the fact that you won't "let me get away with it" will only back you into a acorner until you will have to admit you are wrong...which is what i want.

you might even say something like "OK FINE, scoffing at the cost was a means i used to sell people on the conspiracy to stop printing it" or some other quick one liner to now discount this discussion without actually admitting being wrong. that won't fly and we'll keep at it until you have admitting your incorrectness here.

if that makes me crazy, so be it. but all the crazy insults, therapy cats, or other belittling words (no matter how funny...because therapy cat was not a 9/10, it was 10/10) won't distract from the goal i set out here of insulting you (may or may not be accomplished, but either way i'll concentrate more on the next goal) and to prove you wrong.

Barron


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Barron

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Borodog,

you can't possibly expect the mayor of crazytown to go through all the trouble of making this thread and then have you get away with not addressing the above issue.

please to be addressing it now, thanks,

Barron

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Borodog,

this will get at least 2 bumps a day until you address everything in the above post. don't make me start in with the PM's again.

you will never hear the end of this. ever.

ever.

did i say ever?

i'm not sure i did, but just to be sure...ever.

ever....until you own up to your incorrectness and/or address every issue/question i brought up.

Your humble Mayor.

[iron81]

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you will never hear the end of this. ever.

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Yes, he will. Shortly.

[ALawPoker]

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How can two people as intelligent as you two get this crazy over something so insignificant?

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Not to come off as Borodog's fan boy (I really couldn't give a [censored] about the grudge either), but I think it's pretty clear that Barron is the one getting crazy over the insignificant M3 thing. Borodog is reacting to the fact that Barron created a misleading thread to try to slander him over something that is entirely irrelevant.