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QQ vs. Cold 4bet
Villain is 2p2er ofishstix. 25/16/3 thru whatever. No history tonight or recently, first real pot we've played together in over an hour.
Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LeggoPoker Hand History Converter CO: $208.90 Hero (BTN): $251.65 SB: $53.65 BB: $533.75 UTG: $486.75 Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN) UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $62</font>, CO folds, |
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Re: QQ vs. Cold 4bet
ehh... I think I flat here and see what he does on the flop.
ur call is gonna look pretty strong to him |
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Re: QQ vs. Cold 4bet
fwiw, because we're a bit deep, shoving is -EV if his calling range is KK+,AKo,AKs. Basically we've got 229 behind with a 90 dollar overlay which means we'd be getting 1.4:1 on a shove when he's calling. 1.4:1 requires approx. 42% equity and QQ has only 40% equity against that calling range.
So don't say shove, cause he's not calling JJ here. |
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Re: QQ vs. Cold 4bet
what has co been up to?
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Re: QQ vs. Cold 4bet
And if we call, we'll have about 190 left in an approx. 130 dollar pot, which means we can't fold non A/K flops in general.
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Re: QQ vs. Cold 4bet
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And if we call, we'll have about 190 left in an approx. 130 dollar pot, which means we can't fold non A/K flops in general. [/ QUOTE ] how often do you think he'll cbet after you cold call a 4bet? I mean if he doesnt have AA/KK, don't you think he's gotta be at least somewhat concerned you do? are you always 4betting AA/KK here? |
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Re: QQ vs. Cold 4bet
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what has co been up to? [/ QUOTE ] CO is also TAG, hates me [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img], but this is prob. the first time I've 3bet him. ofishstix prob. has me somewhere around 19/15. |
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Re: QQ vs. Cold 4bet
i would call here and then see what the flop brings ... i would have a hard time folding if the board was all unders but i have been getting owned in these situations recently as well
so maybe a fold pre may be best ... |
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Re: QQ vs. Cold 4bet
so if he checks flop are we betting ??? cause he may be just going for a c/r then we are definitely committed
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Re: QQ vs. Cold 4bet
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[ QUOTE ] And if we call, we'll have about 190 left in an approx. 130 dollar pot, which means we can't fold non A/K flops in general. [/ QUOTE ] how often do you think he'll cbet after you cold call a 4bet? I mean if he doesnt have AA/KK, don't you think he's gotta be at least somewhat concerned you do? are you always 4betting AA/KK here? [/ QUOTE ] I understand your point, but we're simply not deep enough, nor have a good enough read on how he would respond if I flat called to ever fold "good" flops. For all I know, he could of just lost 2 stacks on other tables and is tilted or flopped a pair with whatever rag hands he might 4bet with and just say [censored] it. |
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