KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)

[furfur]

I guess u have to fold w/o a read. However, given that you checked turn to keep pot small, you essentially induce a bluff a significant percentage of time here on river. Would you call if he bet half the bot?

[ASPoker8]

I'd fold with no read and I really hate folding especially when I play a strong hand in a way which will underrep my hand and induce bluffs.

[gobboboy]

Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)?

[EC10]

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Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)?

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no.....no..........no................no

[JSchnett]

I would never bet the turn.

[mastr]

fold, you're beat, and I never fold ever ever ever

[pegusus]

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Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)?

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no.....no..........no................no

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why is that so bad (serious Q), if you bet like 1400-1800 here (basically an amount you'd call on the river), why not bet here so that if he calls and leads river you're 100% not good. most often after you've fired twice villain is much more likely to check river which will allow you to get to showdown cheaper.

[JSchnett]

he can bluff the river if you check the turn. You can get c/red on the turn by a bluff/ semibluff.

[ZJ123]

i call if im a little tilted/bored. Fold otherwise.

[Steve Williams]

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he can bluff the river if you check the turn. You can get c/red on the turn by a bluff/ semibluff.

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I'm OK inducing a bluff when I have reads...readless I prefer to keep the betting lead. If I get bluff checkraised on the turn its a pretty sick spot...villain would have to put me on exactly JJ-KK for this to work and it would seem like a big leak for me to continue.