Tough flop decision

[Karimo]

Playing in my 25/50 cent NLH game,
At this point I am in for 150, and playing at a 5 handed table with some very soft players, and one player who I respect a lot.
My stack is up to about 80, and I pickup QQ in the SB.
UTG, the player I respect, bumps it up to 2.50 and gets called by a very loose player in the Cutoff seat that has already stacked my twice, both by hitting two outters on the river when was all in on the turn. I raise 6 ontop, and get two callers.
flop comes Q76 rainbow. I lead out for 9, UTG raises to 22 total, CU cold calls.
At this point I do not know what to do. I decided to raise it 17 more, and leave my self with 31 and change (and plan to shove on any turn)
I did not want to lose my customers, but I feel like my raise may have been sketchy (although all players at my game except UTG would not have picked up on how small that raise was).

Any advice on this hand will be appreciated.

[bsball8806]

Shove now, get it all in on the flop. CO cold calling bet/raise means he has a lower set like 95% of the time. He'll be happy to get it all in against what he probably thinks you have, AA or KK.

Raising small here just 1. gives people odds to call with draws, and 2. alerts people to the fact you don't want to scare them away.

[Pokey]

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At this point <font color="blue">I am in for 150</font>...My stack is up to about 80


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If you think the amount of money you have currently lost at the table is even remotely relevant then you're playing on tilt and you're likely to screw up big time. The only important number is your stack and the stacks of your opponents. The ONLY way this could be even remotely relevant is if your opponents believe you to be on tilt and they are wrong, but that's a table image issue, not a buyin issue.

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My stack is up to about 80,


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Yes, but what are the stacks of the other players at the table?

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UTG, the player I respect, bumps it up to 2.50 and gets called by a very loose player in the Cutoff seat that has already stacked my twice, both by hitting two outters on the river when was all in on the turn. I raise 6 ontop, and get two callers.


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Your three-bet is too small. After your call there's about $8 in the pot; your raise is less than half the pot. Raise to $11 or so -- make your scary opponent pay if he wants to play, and charge your idiot friend a fortune for his hand.

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flop comes Q76 rainbow. I lead out for 9, UTG raises to 22 total, CU cold calls.
At this point I do not know what to do.


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You have the absolute nuts, a smart opponent loves his hand, and a dumb opponent also wants to come along for the ride? You push. Just put it all in the middle. Your smart friend will call with his overpair and your dumb friend will call with his A7.

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I decided to raise it 17 more, and leave my self with 31 and change (and plan to shove on any turn)
I did not want to lose my customers, but I feel like my raise may have been sketchy (although all players at my game except UTG would not have picked up on how small that raise was).


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A push is just as likely to be called as a smallish raise; you might as well put it all in the middle before something comes on the turn that scares one of your opponents off. All in!

P.S.: I have no idea what's tough about this flop decision.

[TimmayB]

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I have no idea what's tough about this flop decision.

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[Karimo]

ok, first- I believe that UTG thought I was tilting due to his knowledge of my game and his consistant raising my blinds and re-raising my PF bets
secondly-UTG had 115 ish and CU had 95
thirdly-What as tough about my the flop decision was if i wanted to raise small or all-in. CU would not have called a bigger bet with his J7 especially because he was only going to be sitting for a short amount of time longer and he would have been cutting into his profits (which is retarded logic i know but it goes to show his skill level)
I know this sounds results oriented but I had a good idea that his hand was very weak.

[Ivar]

As already said, but just to repeat, your 3bet size preflop should be much bigger (like $10), cause your out of position vs 2 villains and you want them to pay.

And Shove the flop yes!

[bknollenberg]

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