Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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If Fulltilt is wrong it is going to be quite a dilemma for them!

[Rek]

So sillysal has decided to honour us all by posting under that name again. Whilst she is not obligated to post here the fact that someone thought she was 40 she felt was too much to stay silent on.

The fact she has been a regular player for years and knows Johnny Chan is proof of nothing. She has given us no additional information but states that FTP can post any reports (knowing full well FTP are not going to post it here).

FTP will I think correct errors (e.g. after sillysal accused them of delays they countered by saying replies had always been sent within 24 hours) but they are not going to disclose their bot catching techniques.

All we now know that we didn’t previously is that she is not 40 – she didn’t say whether she was older or younger but let’s give her the benefit of the doubt on that one at least. It would be interesting to know:

• What other information has FTP communicated to sillysal?
• What other information has been communicated to Mike Haven?
• Mike Haven posted on 5th Nov saying a spreadsheet cell need to be clarified. Has it?
• Why has Mike Haven not even updated us? Is FTP or sillysal objecting?
• Why is FTP so silent? I accept they can’t supply details but good PR should at least say they remain in contact directly with sillysal (even she admits this).

My apologies to Mike Haven – he didn’t ask to be drawn into this fiasco but now he has I think a little communication would not go amiss. There is no obligation on sillysal to keep us informed and I would have preferred her staying silent if her only concern was to insist on her innocence (of not being 40). Thanks for the latest update after all this time.

Unless anybody has anything of substance to add to this thread it may as well die.

[Josem]

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So sillysal has decided to honour us all by posting under that name again.

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This detracts from the rest of your post.

Mods are able to perform very simple IP checks to weed people posting under multiple accounts out.

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Whilst she is not obligated to post here the fact that someone thought she was 40 she felt was too much to stay silent on.

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Dan's post covered a number of issues.

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The fact she has been a regular player for years and knows Johnny Chan is proof of nothing. She has given us no additional information but states that FTP can post any reports (knowing full well FTP are not going to post it here).

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WTF sort of information or proof do you want from her?

What hurdle are you setting for her?

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Josem isnt it pretty obvious what happened here?

This beatme character obviously had sillysal play one of his accounts. Most likely paid her well for this. He knew eventually there was a good chance the account would get flagged and when it did the plan churns into action.

Poor ole sillysal, pro poker player, and women comes in saying how she was robbed. Afterall how many women players do you know that play the types of limits sillysal did?

I know I might be acting sexist with all of this, but the idea of some 40 year old women sitting in front of the computer 12 hours a day playing high limit heads up holdem online seems rather out of the ordinary.

[Josem]

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This beatme character obviously had sillysal play one of his accounts.

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There is no proof of this.

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Most likely paid her well for this.

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How the hell can you claim this?

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Poor ole sillysal, pro poker player, and women comes in saying how she was robbed. Afterall how many women players do you know that play the types of limits sillysal did?

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This is just idiotic. It deserves no more response than that.

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I know I might be acting sexist with all of this, but the idea of some 40 year old women sitting in front of the computer 12 hours a day playing high limit heads up holdem online seems rather out of the ordinary.

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Because she's female, she's not allowed to play high stakes heads up?

WTF sort of rationale are you putting forward here?

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This beatme character obviously had sillysal play one of his accounts.

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There is no proof of this.

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Most likely paid her well for this.

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How the hell can you claim this?

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Poor ole sillysal, pro poker player, and women comes in saying how she was robbed. Afterall how many women players do you know that play the types of limits sillysal did?

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This is just idiotic. It deserves no more response than that.

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I know I might be acting sexist with all of this, but the idea of some 40 year old women sitting in front of the computer 12 hours a day playing high limit heads up holdem online seems rather out of the ordinary.

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Because she's female, she's not allowed to play high stakes heads up?

WTF sort of rationale are you putting forward here?

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It was a hypothesis Josem. No one knows what is really going on here. It makes sense to me though, maybe I am crazy.

[Josem]

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It was a hypothesis Josem. No one knows what is really going on here. It makes sense to me though, maybe I am crazy.

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OK.

Test each part of it, and determine whether there is any proof of any of it.

[Rek]

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So sillysal has decided to honour us all by posting under that name again.

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This detracts from the rest of your post.

Mods are able to perform very simple IP checks to weed people posting under multiple accounts out.

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Not sure how it detracts but anyway let's not nitpick on a particular phrase. Do you seriously not think you could sort out a new user name and post here from a different IP address. Come on?

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Whilst she is not obligated to post here the fact that someone thought she was 40 she felt was too much to stay silent on.

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Dan's post covered a number of issues.

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So have a lot of other posts but 40 seems to be the problem. No other info she posted was new (oh apart from she knows Johnny Chan - and?)

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The fact she has been a regular player for years and knows Johnny Chan is proof of nothing. She has given us no additional information but states that FTP can post any reports (knowing full well FTP are not going to post it here).

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WTF sort of information or proof do you want from her?

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Whatever new info she has. How about what other things FTP have said? If she wants FTP to post here she should be willing to post everything herself.

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What hurdle are you setting for her?

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No hurdles just an update not how old she is.

Josem, I know my view on this matter is not a popular one but unless someone can post a proper update then the normal speculation continues.

If somebody starts a thread that causes so much interest the least they can do is keep the thread updated. It was sillysal that said she was no longer posting (without giving a reason).

The rest of my post I still think is relevant. The silence on the issues is deafening. I think we all have our own ideas on who is telling the truth here. My view is pretty obvious but I don't discount the fact that I may well be wrong. But opting to stay silent, whilst a person's right, tends to raise more questions than it answers.

[Sodom]

Rek and some others are really out of line.

You have no ground for your speculations and discredit of Sillysal.

If FTP have grounds, they should present them in some form. As it is now, the only ground we have is to suspect that FTP is out of line aswell. It is so out of proportion to accuse someone for cheating, confiscate 47 000 USD and refuse to present any evidence. The burden is on FTP. And I expect FTP to come out with some form of statement in this issue.

Needless to say, cheaters shall be punished and that include Absolute Poker aswell as single players who violate rules and laws. In fact, they should be brought to court if that is possible. But no one shall be accused without grounds.

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Needless to say, cheaters shall be punished and that include Absolute Poker aswell as single players who violate rules and laws. In fact, they should be brought to court if that is possible. But no one shall be accused without grounds.

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And that is precisely why we need the on-line industry regulated in this country. Regulation isn't nearly as much about regulating the players as it is about regulating the companies who provide the games.