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Old 03-20-2006, 12:25 PM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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I'd play the same.

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Old 03-20-2006, 12:28 PM
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I think the pre-flop call is fine. But if it isn't HU only continue when you hit hard or pick up a huge draw.

Since you only got a pair and there are people after you to act fold this and wait for a better spot to put your money in.
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Old 03-20-2006, 12:44 PM
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SB is 43/22/2.2 over 50 hands.

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That's pretty aggro. I think it's aggro enough that he could be pumping overcards or a draw in that spot instead of a real hand. After getting 3-bet, I think it's a good calldown and MP1 just happened to run into a good hand. The only question is whether you outdrew him with your rivered two pair or if he had a set on the flop.
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:03 PM
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I had a question.. is this hand +ev on the flop?
4 players at the flop, we have a top pair.. only a six, there is a flush draw and a player on a bad position showing strenght, moreover there are people behind us.
I think that the pot in this conditions must be huge and obviously in these hand the pot isn't so much.
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:39 PM
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Grunch

I think you can fold on the flop. You can't make a flush and you need runner, runner for a straight. You have 2 players to act behind you (I assume CO was still in the hand. He called PF, but there is no mention of him after that). If you were sure it would be HU vs. the SB I'd like it, given his stats, but you can't be sure of that. Even if you make trip 6's, the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] may not be any good to you.
I hate these kind of hands were you have just enough hope which causes you to lose more money.
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:51 PM
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I fold this PF.

Also, I would consider calling rather than raising the flop if continuing. The SB is loose, raised PF, and is unlikely to fold to a raise on the flop. MP1 is fairly tight, and liked his/her hand enough to cold call 2 bets and is unlikely to fold on the flop as well. In addition, the flop is small and coordinated. So raising can't protect our hand here, and we're obviously not raising for value. We also must surely improve to win. So we're drawing to 2 pair, trips and a backdoor straight, all which are devalued by a flush draw on the board.

On the turn, with the gutshot + draws, we're getting the odds to peel one more.

We spike 2 pair on the river, so we must call here.

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Old 03-20-2006, 02:23 PM
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Boy, I thought the flop raise was the easiest decision of the hand, given the pot size.
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:48 PM
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I fold the turn after mp1 raises


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even discounting our outs here for the flush, we have enough to call the turn after the raise, we are getting 13.5 to 1.
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:52 PM
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Boy, I thought the flop raise was the easiest decision of the hand, given the pot size.

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I like raising better than calling to try to knock out the other two.
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Old 03-20-2006, 05:05 PM
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Boy, I thought the flop raise was the easiest decision of the hand, given the pot size.

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I like raising better than calling to try to knock out the other two.

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How likely are we to fold either opponent? I think it's relatively unlikely. Even if we fold MP1 here, SB still 3 bets us, and we face the same decision. I think perhaps a better strategy is see the turn cheaply, and if we hit our trips or 2 pair, we can get aggressive, or if we hit a gutshot, peel one off since we have odds.

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