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Old 11-13-2007, 04:29 AM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default $16 - 10/20, QQ 4bet pf.. check/fold flop??

I'm pretty sure I played this fine, but what does everyone think. FWIW I'm not looking for preflop advice since shoving just loses value against unknowns, but more at post flop. I don't think I am hardly ever ahead here and I doubt he is folding anything that hit that flop with all the money in the pot.

As for calling the 100 flop bet.. seemed small enough to call and see if I can get a very cheap showdown.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1540)
BB (t1540)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to t140</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t475</font>, MP3 calls t335

Flop: (t1060) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100

Turn: (t1260) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets t560</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: $16 - 10/20, QQ 4bet pf.. check/fold flop??

I think it's fine as played, you're ahead of basically nothing and the 100 flop bet looks pretty weak, so I think we can peel and try to get to SD.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:26 AM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: $16 - 10/20, QQ 4bet pf.. check/fold flop??

I would probably flat the reraise pre, with the intention of still getting it in at some point on &lt;K high boards
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:26 AM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: $16 - 10/20, QQ 4bet pf.. check/fold flop??

Seems fine to me. Your 2 outs make up most of the equity to call the flop bet, add a few pocket pairs to your opponents range and it's fine.

Not much to comment on, maybe re-raise a little less PF.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:25 AM
eurythmech eurythmech is offline
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Default Re: $16 - 10/20, QQ 4bet pf.. check/fold flop??

Yeah, well both preflop raises are a tad big, but apparently they're perfect, so whatever.
I really hate our position on the flop, and want to fold to that retarded bet, but never will.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:37 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: $16 - 10/20, QQ 4bet pf.. check/fold flop??

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Yeah, well both preflop raises are a tad big, but apparently they're perfect, so whatever.
I really hate our position on the flop, and want to fold to that retarded bet, but never will.

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I'm not raising to less than 420 preflop, so it won't make much of a difference but yeah I guess I could do that. I was more trying to prevent people from saying shove pf because thats just a worse play.

Just calling the reraise pf is also an option, but against unknowns in the $16s I'm doubting thats the most profitable way to play the hand.
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