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Old 11-12-2007, 08:53 PM
runhot runhot is offline
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Default $60: standard icm push, so why raise 4x BVB

the SB has 86o, standard icm shove, but he makes it 4x. can someone explain why thats reasonable? i mean maybe to a nonreg it looks stronger than a shove (maaaaaaybe). but it gives donkeys too many options i think. they look at screen and see 'fold' 'call' or ohhhhhhhhhh i can raise !! i duno i dont ever make it 4x here with trash.


Poker Stars, $55 + $5 NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 7 Players
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UTG+1: 2,115
MP: 1,605
Hero (CO): 1,360
BTN: 3,040
SB: 1,300
BB: 2,460
UTG: 1,620

Pre-Flop: (475) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
5 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to 800</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to 1,400</font>
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:03 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: $60: standard icm push, so why raise 4x BVB

The only reason I can think of is that because he is so short and maybe has shoved bvb often already it will mask an otherwise weak looking shove by seeming like a standardish raise. Isn't great to do often but I guess it can occasionally work.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: $60: standard icm push, so why raise 4x BVB

If bb is a multitabler a raise makes sense since he won't see immediately you are basically allin and will call tighter.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:29 AM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: $60: standard icm push, so why raise 4x BVB

its a good psychological trick imo. the fact that you're posting this explains it. its a lot easier to call here with 98s than it is to reshove with it.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:39 AM
schusch schusch is offline
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Default Re: $60: standard icm push, so why raise 4x BVB

i like it,i mean iam a lower buyin-reg(11,22) but there this is to 90% a monsterhand,although i dont like the 4bb,think 2-3bb looks alot stronger
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: $60: standard icm push, so why raise 4x BVB

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its a good psychological trick imo. the fact that you're posting this explains it. its a lot easier to call here with 98s than it is to reshove with it.

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yea but the sb doesnt want a call from 98s. as posted in op, SB has 86o. i duno...
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: $60: standard icm push, so why raise 4x BVB

edit.. hand is posted with me folding in the CO with 64o.

the SB went to showdown and has 86o
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: $60: standard icm push, so why raise 4x BVB

I mix up my play vs regs sometimes doing wierd stuff like this, also with the complete/call push or complete/shove any flop when I know reg BB will call me with J8 junk knowing im pushing wide
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