First Hand of the Million

registrar · #1 11-12-2007, 01:19 PM

OPR, which means you can tank, and then probably min-reraise. You can obviously make plans for four-flush and pairing turns but I don't think there's much point until you have some stats and narrow his range based on how and how fast he reacts.

If he's profitable, then just call and cr safe turns.

Steroid Boy · #2 11-12-2007, 01:50 PM

raise it up to like 1100 total and snapcall a shove and pray his twopr/set doesnt fill up

Eagles · #3 11-12-2007, 04:06 PM

Fold pf or raise pf.
Probably raise pf. As played I probably 3bet flop and re-evaluate depending on what he does.

mlagoo · #4 11-12-2007, 04:11 PM

i 3bet here with no plans of folding to an unknown on the first hand of the million, assuming all the action is on the flop. keep valuebetting all streets assuming bricks, possibly b/f some paired turns but probably not, typically c/f spade turn/rivers.

djk123 · #5 11-12-2007, 04:12 PM

folding preflop in the million against an unknown would be absurd. i like a raise better than a complete, but a complete is certainly better than folding

Hattifnatt · #6 11-12-2007, 05:42 PM

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folding preflop in the million against an unknown would be absurd. i like a raise better than a complete, but a complete is certainly better than folding

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why do you think folding is absurd, cause of all the donks? even then I dont think you lose much by folding, bec even if its a high chance you're up vs a bad player you dont know in which way he is bad if he is that since we have no reads.

also, what do you prefer if it was a start field with much better player on avg than the million and you didnt have any reads on the players?

after all, we have a pretty trashy hand OOP and its early.

djk123 · #7 11-12-2007, 05:46 PM

cuz BB is more than likely a bad player, and I want to play as many pots as possible with the bad players early on.

NoahSD · #8 11-12-2007, 06:04 PM

Preflop is fold > raise >>>>> complete. Completing here is really ugly... 24s is very much not a good hand.

Flop has to be a 3-bet since so much of his range is behind but not folding. I dunno about how to respond to a 4-bet cause I don't really know the players in the million.

curtains · #9 11-13-2007, 06:27 PM

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folding preflop in the million against an unknown would be absurd. i like a raise better than a complete, but a complete is certainly better than folding

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It's absurd to fold 42s out of position? This is one of the most insane things I've ever heard. You don't beat these guys by playing garbage out of position, you beat them by having good hands and watching them throw their money at you.

I don't think not folding is terrible or anything, but to call folding "absurd" is a ridiculous and gross overstatement.

djk123 · #10 11-13-2007, 06:34 PM

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folding preflop in the million against an unknown would be absurd. i like a raise better than a complete, but a complete is certainly better than folding

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It's absurd to fold 42s out of position? This is one of the most insane things I've ever heard. You don't beat these guys by playing garbage out of position, you beat them by having good hands and watching them throw their money at you.

I don't think not folding is terrible or anything, but to call folding "absurd" is a ridiculous and gross overstatement.

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it's sb vs bb and bb likely sucks. why on earth would you want to fold 2 suited cards? The only times i fold here is when I'm playing too many tables and not paying enough attention.