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11-11-2007, 08:04 PM
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Re: $10/$20 Razz Big pot vs. terrible villain.
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[ QUOTE ] Villain is awful LAG...I sort of slowplay [/ QUOTE ] does not compute [/ QUOTE ] So he'll keep betting at me if he's paired, and if he has a 6 for some reason I don't get charged a million bets because I don't think he has anything. -ChipsAhoya 
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#2
11-11-2007, 08:18 PM
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Re: $10/$20 Razz Big pot vs. terrible villain.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Villain is awful LAG...I sort of slowplay [/ QUOTE ] does not compute [/ QUOTE ] So he'll keep betting at me if he's paired, and if he has a 6 for some reason I don't get charged a million bets because I don't think he has anything. [/ QUOTE ] on the other hand if he has T8 down as LAGs tend to do, you've just lost out on 38834834 bets
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#3
11-11-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: $10/$20 Razz Big pot vs. terrible villain.
you guys confuse the right strategy for "calling station" and "bets his board" with "LAG" a whole lot, and it costs everyone on this board so many pots/bets/whatever.
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#4
11-11-2007, 08:26 PM
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Re: $10/$20 Razz Big pot vs. terrible villain.
okay one more post...the one street you raised was the one street where he could play perfectly and in fact saw exactly what you had.
this is as opposed to sixth, where, even if you decided to slowplay fourth/fifth, he is drawing live and will never fold.
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#5
11-11-2007, 09:02 PM
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Re: $10/$20 Razz Big pot vs. terrible villain.
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you guys confuse the right strategy for "calling station" and "bets his board" with "LAG" a whole lot, and it costs everyone on this board so many pots/bets/whatever. [/ QUOTE ] I forget which villain this is, but he's probably "bets his board" than truly LAG and he won't go nuts w/ T8 but he will keep betting on the future streets if he catches poorly. The raise on 3rd is necessary, but the cap probably isn't. He would put me on something like 7a2 probably and not dead cards, so it's not giving my hand away. -ChipsAhoya
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11-11-2007, 09:05 PM
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Re: $10/$20 Razz Big pot vs. terrible villain.
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[ QUOTE ] you guys confuse the right strategy for "calling station" and "bets his board" with "LAG" a whole lot, and it costs everyone on this board so many pots/bets/whatever. [/ QUOTE ] I forget which villain this is, but he's probably "bets his board" than truly LAG and he won't go nuts w/ T8 but he will keep betting on the future streets if he catches poorly. The raise on 3rd is necessary, but the cap probably isn't. He would put me on something like 7a2 probably and not dead cards, so it's not giving my hand away. -ChipsAhoya [/ QUOTE ] Why is the reraise on 3rd necessary? What does it accomplish? Even if you don't give away the exact cards, you give away that you have 2 wheel cards.
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#7
11-11-2007, 09:14 PM
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Re: $10/$20 Razz Big pot vs. terrible villain.
Well, we might have different definitions of what LAG means. There is stupid LAG, which is going to bet whenever he thinks he might have you bet, or thinks you might fold, or whatever, but who will call or re-raise if you raise. Then there's smarter LAG who thinks the same but who will fold his crap if you raise him on 5th. If you try to out-aggress one of these guys, you pay much more when you're behind or he's drawing live, and you make less when he's got nothing.
In order to extract a lot of bets out of this guy, you need to be both ahead, but he needs to at least think he's drawing live. What I don't understand is why you're so concerned about "giving away" our hand on 3rd but not on 5th or 6th, when it really matters. And yes, you get villain to play 7th correctly by folding. After you got him to play 5th and 6th incorrectly, by betting.
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#8
11-11-2007, 09:22 PM
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Re: $10/$20 Razz Big pot vs. terrible villain.
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Well, we might have different definitions of what LAG means. There is stupid LAG, which is going to bet whenever he thinks he might have you bet, or thinks you might fold, or whatever, but who will call or re-raise if you raise. Then there's smarter LAG who thinks the same but who will fold his crap if you raise him on 5th. If you try to out-aggress one of these guys, you pay much more when you're behind or he's drawing live, and you make less when he's got nothing. In order to extract a lot of bets out of this guy, you need to be both ahead, but he needs to at least think he's drawing live. What I don't understand is why you're so concerned about "giving away" our hand on 3rd but not on 5th or 6th, when it really matters. And yes, you get villain to play 7th correctly by folding. After you got him to play 5th and 6th incorrectly, by betting. [/ QUOTE ] Thank you for articulating this much better than I can after not sleeping in AC this weekend. -ChipsAhoya
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#9
11-11-2007, 09:20 PM
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Re: $10/$20 Razz Big pot vs. terrible villain.
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Why is the reraise on 3rd necessary? What does it accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] To isolate with the guy who sucks. [ QUOTE ] Even if you don't give away the exact cards, you give away that you have 2 wheel cards. [/ QUOTE ] So I narrowed my range from a a 76 to a 75? I could still maybe have a 76 because a 6 is out... -ChipsAhoya
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