QQ in 4b pot

[sdplayerb]

this makes no sense.
you are after the BB, so you are UTG.
but you list UTG acting first.
something is out of order here.

[Kimpan]

so we like a call or push here?
I actually chickened out here

[DaGrunt]

Just push. Given the read that he's 4-betting light he could well have JJ or even worse (TT, AQ). And AA would prolly just call here and not drive everything else away except KK and maybe QQ, AK. So basically I think your ahead of his range.

[thac]

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so we like a call or push here?
I actually chickened out here

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I'd shove before I call here.

[DaGrunt]

Ya calling is bad. If an ace or king pops up ur on a very tough spot on a huge pot.

[Montezuma21]

my first instinct was to say shove but:

i think whether we call or shove depends on how often he pushes AI on a non-A/K flop with AK.

IF we can agree that:
1. He's rarely pushing TT-QQ on an K high flop, and very rarely on an A high flop
2. he pushes AK on a non A/K flop a good precentage on the time

then:

our best strategy against a likely 4betting range of JJ+, AK+ would be to call his push on all non A/K flops or to push ourselves on such flops.


Edit: the only problem is that this strategy minimises the value we get from JJ if an A/K flops (as it'll likely be checked down). maybe push is best.

[immesan]

how can u even contemplate calling its push/fold...maybe its jst me but I see AA/KK/AK here alot , looking at his stats I think its ok inlcude JJ a fair amount of the time. Im folding and feeling good abt it...with more reads u´ll know exactly what to do next time