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Old 11-10-2007, 05:32 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Getting miny-raised on flop...

Villain is 34/12/1.4 over 55 hands. Nothing notable between us up to this point.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $147.80
MP: $178.55
CO: $44.70
BTN: $227.35
SB: $76.75
Hero (BB): $168.85

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, UTG calls $4, SB folds

Flop: ($11) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, Hero ???

Range? 3bet or call? If you call what is your turn plan OOP?

Note that we are about 150 BB deep.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Getting miny-raised on flop...

Csll lead turn would be my suggestion. To deep for me to like 3-betting.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:40 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: Getting miny-raised on flop...

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Csll lead turn would be my suggestion. To deep for me to like 3-betting.

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Lead turn with intention of...

EDIT: Insta 3bet flop w/ 100bb stacks...right?
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:32 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: Getting miny-raised on flop...

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Csll lead turn would be my suggestion. To deep for me to like 3-betting.

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Lead turn with intention of...

EDIT: Insta 3bet flop w/ 100bb stacks...right?

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Why does this being 150 bb deep make you dislike 3betting? Do you believe his 3bet calling range crushes our AA?
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:36 PM
markuisis markuisis is offline
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Default Re: Getting miny-raised on flop...

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Csll lead turn would be my suggestion. To deep for me to like 3-betting.

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I like this line the most by far, if he mini raises a blank I call and b/f river to a reasonable bet because ive seen these mini raises be top pair, weak overpairs or draws too often.
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Getting miny-raised on flop...

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Csll lead turn would be my suggestion. To deep for me to like 3-betting.

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Lead turn with intention of...

EDIT: Insta 3bet flop w/ 100bb stacks...right?

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Really really player dependant, that mini raise can often be very strong but it varies from player to player, I wouldnt feel comfortable stacking this pretty dry flop for 150bb without a read on how he plays a bit.
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:02 PM
immesan immesan is offline
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Default Re: Getting miny-raised on flop...

why would we 3b this flop? then we risk folding out all hands we beat.. he limps utg and calls our raise then gayraises he could be holding something like 45/79 which is the only draws out there. He´s probably raising 66+ utg. this leaves us with somehting like 2pair/set/random 8.

So yeah calling and leading turn, if shows further aggression drop it like its hot his agf is way to low...if he just calls trn then im either c/c or betting it. cause he sholud be putting in a raise somewhere if he has the goods
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: Getting miny-raised on flop...

i def like the idea of calling and then leading turn to a blank.

These min raises to me look like weak overpairs trying to find out where they are at.

It's all read dependant if he raises you on turn though. Since you said he hasnt been out of line, i would probably fold.
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