$2+0.25...ITM, high blinds, turn bluff check-called, but hit top pair

ThePhoenix78 · #1 11-10-2007, 11:30 AM

So I'm in the money, and all three of us have relatively close chip stacks. My opponent in this hand has been quite LAG, especially at high blind levels. Only a few hands earlier, I picked off 2/3 pot river bluff with 3rd best pair.

He does lots of min raising preflop, so that min raise could be anything. I decide to check behind on the flop, I have two overs, let's see if I hit and what he does on the turn. Now that he checks on the turn, I figure it's worth a stab and bet pretty strong, given the draws out there. First question: you ok with how I've played the hand to this point? Should I have re-raised preflop? Taken a stab on the flop? Checked behind again on the turn?

So he calls that...now I'm a bit suspicious, but I hit top pair on the river. I'm hoping we'll check it down, but he bets out a bet for essentially all of my chips. I have a bad feeling...did me turn a straight? Was he slow playing something? Next question: with all those chips in the pot, I have to call don't I? And I'm in the money at least, so I know I'm walking away with something. Given that this guy had played very LAG and that I had seen him bluff before, think I should call? Or are you confident enough that he has top pair beat and you fold to fight on? When I picked off his bluff before, I had a great feeling I was ahead and insta called. Here, my spidey senses were definitely tingling.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t4725)
Hero (t3960)
Button (t4815)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB raises to t400, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t800) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t800) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t700, SB calls t700.

River: (t2200) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t1800

Rek · #2 11-10-2007, 11:46 AM

Well you certainly don't have to call. You have enough chips left to fold if you think you are beat.

He could have anything here I'm afraid. As a LAG he could have minimum raised with ATC so may well have J4 for example. However, he may also have nothing. To be honest I am calling this but I'm not confident.

sence25 · #3 11-10-2007, 11:49 AM

I call this too.
I hate turn, especially with this size.
Pretty easy cb, since you're hand still has some value and by betting you turn it into a pure bluff.

ThePhoenix78 · #4 11-10-2007, 11:50 AM

What do you mean you hate turn? You mean my bet? If so, could you offer some concrete advice on what I should have done? Think I should have just checked? Or do you try to pick it up with a smaller bet? Thanks!

sence25 · #5 11-10-2007, 11:53 AM

Yeah, sure.
You can either check(which is obv best against a lag here who will float this a lot) or bet like 400-500.
700 is way too much.

ThePhoenix78 · #6 11-10-2007, 11:56 AM

Sorry, I don't know a lot of the lingo...what do you mean by float? And from reading Moshman's SnG book, I get the sense he'd say take a stab with a hand that still can become best if you've seen your opponent check both flop and turn on a dangerous board. That's the beauty of poker, I think people could reasonably argue for both a check and a bet here. I agree that 700 was too much though.

Rek · #7 11-10-2007, 12:03 PM

If it is advice your looking for then against a LAG who regularly minimum raises I will be raising pre flop to 1200 in this situation. KJs is a good hand 3 handed against such a player. If he re-raises call.

As I said tho, as played I call the river.