pros tipping dealers

[Al_Capone_Junior]

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If I thought a tip would make a dealer be anything but impartial, I would never tip that dealer.

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Hellew. Dealers that are not impartial all the time, regardless of the tipping status of a player, should be kicked in the nuts, square. Dealers who pull this kind of crap are the ones that give good dealers a bad name.

Unfortunately, the poker boom has brought in lots of people that don't give a damn about poker, but want to jump on the bandwagon. This really hurts the few dealers (like me) who actually care about poker and have been around since long before the boom.

These days I generously tip dealers who obviously care and are always trying to improve, learn etc. Even a new dealer who's not very good, but is obviously trying to learn and improve, I'll be generous. The ones that are just lumps of flesh sitting around waiting to be toked I tip accordingly.

Al

[billybeartku]

I don't tip if there's no flop action, even if it's like 500 dollar preflop taken down without flop seen.
My standard is, 100-300 -- 1 dollar tip, 300+ --2 dollar and that's it. You can call me a cheap ass but I don't care. Oh, there's one time at Caesar's where I won a 500 dollar pot and I only tipped 1 dollar to the Korean dealer. Ever since that cheap tip, he started to stare at me for the rest of his time on my table and tossed my cards in the air everytime he dealt me. I went to the floor and had him punished. So, go ahead and complain more about our tips, I don't really care. They didn't choose you to deal for players, YOU CHOSE to be a dealer, so be professional and competent and your tips will come alone the way.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Not sure if you're directing these comments at me, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume these were general comments.

All these tipping schemas are just "like whatever." I understand you can't be a ridiculously huge tipper if you're playing for a living, but it should be a personal choice based on the dealer's merit and whether you appreciate them.

You should also tip and encourage dealers and floors who obviously care about poker and want to do a good job and improve themselves.

Al

[TheOneWizard]

Basically I tip $1 for a pot of any size: a couple of limpers or a raise then I take it down on the flop. That's a bit more than some but then I generally never tip more than a dollar even if the pot is huge. For an average dealer dealing Hold'em this should be $25-$30/hour. This seems fair for small stakes.

My thing is I never tip chip runners or the cage. Is this bad? Partially I never think about it at the time and I really don't like giving away a bunch of money.

[Gonso]

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I dont really feel bad for the poker dealers, they have a very sweet job. They get like $40 an hour for something that requires pretty minimal education.

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So long as you know that most dealers don't make this kind of money, and it does require at least a little training and investment. Learning 3 games and paying for my casino license cost me about 12 weeks and around $1,500 out of pocket.

I would call it a sweet job if it weren't for all the dealer abuse, I mean I like pitching cards and poker and all that. It's a decent job for fast money or someone going to grad school or whatever, but it's pretty lousy for a career imo.

Plus I hear they like urinate on and stab dealers in California

[pfapfap]

You're free to tip whatever you want to. I just always say to those who watch the tips for a down at their table and multiply... I'm tipping out $4/hr chip runners, $1.5/hr DC, $3/hr floor, a few bucks a night to the cage, I have two hours (usually at least) of break, and plenty of tables with hardly any tokes.

It's a sweet job for what it is, don't get me wrong, but there's more than what you see.

Anyway, I'm happy with $1/pot as long as you keep the game moving. Be a courteous, consistent player. Don't hide your cards. Put your bets in. Understand that we make mistakes sometimes. Help rather than hinder. Smile. Say hello.

All of that means much more to me than a big tip. When a pro/prop tips me a buck, I'm more appreciative because I understand how much more it means to them. And I certainly don't think down on one for no tip on a blind steal or tiny post-drop flop.

The pros I don't like are those that want me to sing for my supper. Sorry, I'm not kissing your ass in hopes that after a year of dealing perfectly with no mistakes (in your own ego-filled mind), you might throw me a buck here or there. If you're that kind of player, stay at home.

So, be nice. And understand that other players look to you as an example, so, please, at least do one chip when appropriate. If you really feel you can't tip, then the least you can do is be a good, friendly, helpful player. It's your choice not to tip, but don't hold up my game or encourage others to be discourteous through example.

[nycbuddha]

I play in NYC at a place where I'm a regular and I tip more than most of you. Club dealers do not get a paycheck, they live entirely on tips. (Honestly, you pros and pro wannabes come off sounding cheap to me--and I'm a guy who thinks of himself as too cheap sometimes!)

I tip $1 for any pot, even a blind steal.
I tip $2 for a pot over $150.
For bigger pots, I tip 1% of my profit for the pot.

I am a winning player, so I'm not tipping myself into oblivian. I'm also an uber-tight player, so I'm not tipping that many pots.

At casinos I don't tip blind steals but I will tip every other pot at least $1.

[psandman]

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Club dealers do not get a paycheck, they live entirely on tips.

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They get no insurance, no unemployment benefits, and are subject to arrest. Absolutely the players should be taking good care of these dealers.

[TacitMike]

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I tip $1 for any pot, even a blind steal.
I tip $2 for a pot over $150.
For bigger pots, I tip 1% of my profit for the pot.


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So if you win a 160 pot where you played heads up the whole way, you profit $80. How much do you tip?